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Title: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Grandma on October 09, 2011, 16:15:09
This summer the whitefly infestation in my greenhouse was so bad that I couldn't go in there without inhaling them!  :o The tomatoes and cucumbers suffered badly and so did my lovely regal pelargoniums. As well as taking cuttings I usually keep the mature regals from one year to the next but I've thrown them all out this year and am just relying on the new plants.

So - the greenhouse is now completely empty. Is there anything I can do to prevent the little buggers returning in force next year and, if so, what and when should I do it please? Thank you.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: petengade on October 09, 2011, 17:57:24
Hi Grandma,
I had them in my greenhouse also, planted French marigolds they seemed to dislike them, all clear now, maybe just luck, will plant them earlier next year.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Grandma on October 09, 2011, 18:42:58
Thanks petengade! I'm getting old and really am losing my marbles. :-[ I used to do that - just a few French marigolds in the greenhouse and I didn't ever have anything like the problem I've had this year.

Thanks ever so much. I'll write it in my 'mustn't forget' book - when I find it!.

(I've just noticed that you live in Worthing, too! The whitefly you got rid of obviously came to live with me!) 
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Hector on October 09, 2011, 19:56:16
A hand-held hoover?
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: lottie lou on October 09, 2011, 19:58:50
What about those yellow sticky traps?
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: pumkinlover on October 09, 2011, 20:05:08
I have not had whitefly in greenhouse since planted marigolds and they look so nice ;D
I think tagettes who are good too, will try them next year.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: tim on October 09, 2011, 20:08:52
As a start, I would be brutal & discard Pelargoniums - the worst attractor for whitefly.

Cucumbers? Never known whitefly on them.

Marigolds? A lovely theory BUT it assumes that you have them in flower from day 1 - & continue thus. Not an easy task. And if you miss early on, woe is you!!
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: chriscross1966 on October 09, 2011, 21:25:21
I put a few yellow sticky traps and some french marigolds into my gh this year and haven't seen any whitefly or aphids....
chrisc
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Grandma on October 09, 2011, 23:03:00
Quote from: tim on October 09, 2011, 20:08:52
As a start, I would be brutal & discard Pelargoniums - the worst attractor for whitefly.

NOOOOOO dear Tim! I couldn't!:o I have twenty-odd named varieties and they are a delight throughout the summer that I just wouldn't be without.

Quote from: lottie lou on October 09, 2011, 19:58:50
What about those yellow sticky traps?

I tried those, lottie lou, and found they caught more hoverflies than whitefly! I'll definitely try to remember the French marigolds next year and maybe a few yellow stickies like chriscross1966.

Thanks all for your helpful advice.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: tricia on October 09, 2011, 23:39:56
Last year - horrible infestation of whitefly in GH. This year - sowed tagetes seeds at same time as tomato seeds and planted them up into same pots as tomatoes and not a whitefly to be seen all season. Will continue with this method next year too.

Tricia
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: tim on October 10, 2011, 08:04:41
Thought you'd say that, Grandma!!

But agree about the traps.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: daveyboi on October 10, 2011, 09:16:29
There is also a wasp type biological control but that has to be used early in the season.

If you Google the Latin name (encarsia formosa), several suppliers will appear
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: claybasket on October 10, 2011, 09:36:58
I put Basil in the g/h I don't get any trouble now,would garlic spray help?
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: petengade on October 10, 2011, 10:47:26
Saw on Google, grow pots of mint near the plants, they don't like those either,
Thanks again for the sweet pea seed you gave me a few years ago still saving the seed and growing, remember?  ;D
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: gazza1960 on October 10, 2011, 11:28:50
sorry,no info on GH whitefly but just wanted to spread the Question to the remainder of our plot as we have been truly infested with them.
The cabbages beets and,,,,well basically anything with a leaf has the little so and so,s on.

My neighbours suggested a "powder" not sure of type.? but I didnt fancy consuming Greens that have had
that kind of cure sprinkled all over them.

Gazza
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: tim on October 10, 2011, 11:39:44
Oh, those. Just disturb them - jet them - or leave them & wash well before eating!!

They only really mess up Sprouts.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Grandma on October 10, 2011, 13:34:48
So - my shopping list is now:- French marigold, tagetes and basil seed; a few yellow stickies and a hand-held vacuum cleaner! And I'll move a lump of mint into the GH, too. That should fix the little buggers! Thanks for all your advice. :-*

Glad the sweet peas are still going strong, petengade. Thanks for letting me know.

And Tim - there's something quite magical about being called 'grandma' by a handsome 90-year old! xxx
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: pumkinlover on October 11, 2011, 12:51:33
Hope greenhouse will still haveroom for your tomatoes and pelagoniums ;)
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: JENIAN on November 07, 2011, 16:27:28
Had french marigolds in pots in the GH for the past few seasons and no sign of white fly.  My brassicas outside in the allotment have been covered with the blighters so thinking of planting Marigolds/tegetes under the plants next year.  Will certainly try mint in pots in the GH as well.  Thanx for tips.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: rugbypost on November 07, 2011, 17:36:24
HI,Gandma what we do everymonth is cut some garden fleece to cover the widow opening, and early in the season you can buy lava of something that attacks the white fly not sure if it works or if it would be cheap enough to use but the fleece trick dose work ;)
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: chriscross1966 on November 08, 2011, 02:45:50
Quote from: Grandma on October 10, 2011, 13:34:48
So - my shopping list is now:- French marigold, tagetes and basil seed; a few yellow stickies and a hand-held vacuum cleaner!

French marigolds are tagetes.....
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: davejg on November 08, 2011, 21:17:44
Quote from: petengade on October 10, 2011, 10:47:26
Saw on Google, grow pots of mint near the plants, they don't like those either,
Thanks again for the sweet pea seed you gave me a few years ago still saving the seed and growing, remember?  ;D

Had a few cuttings of mint growing in the GH this year, thinking about it now never saw whitefly in there this summer. certainly going to try the same next year + a few tagates.
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: green lily on November 08, 2011, 21:31:07
My french marigolds and tagetes have interbred and self sown in the poly and its quite a riot of colour and smells greaT ;). I used african marigolds around the outdoor toms this year for a change and they worked too.
Next year will have them around the sprouts which are covered with the little pests - but I just shake and wash them off. I guess they like the mild weather. Could you plant french marigolds among the pelargoniums? I've put them in hanging baskets before. Every little helps ;D
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Mr Smith on November 08, 2011, 21:32:00
This year I have had a problem with White fly and also Rust on my Onions and Leeks, you could have the weed free and pest free allotment of all time, but if your neighbours have a problem with whatever pest or diesease, then I think with allotments being so close together then it is just question before we all get it :),
Title: Re: Whitefly - can anyone help, please?
Post by: Tam on November 30, 2011, 21:02:42
Have had a horrendous year with whitefly on my tomato plants, nearly as bad last year as well.

Once I had run out of proper insecticides, which are now banned they multiplied out of control!
I have a pall who has  a 10 foot and a 20 foot long greenhouses and never has any problem with fly!

Not me, over the years I have tried yellow pads(loads) Pravada (totally useless) soap spray, and nicotine spray, seedweed spray, derris spray  and this year home made garlic spray,all totally useless, (no I did not over use any of them!)

Have grown tagetes,  marigolds,and basil plants again totally useless, the basil plants were covered with them!

All that is left is to stand with one foot in a basin of cold water with one foot and the other with my trouser leg rolled up to my knee!
>:(