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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: Digeroo on October 03, 2011, 08:30:18

Title: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Digeroo on October 03, 2011, 08:30:18
I have just put some in.  I would very much appreciate advice about how to keep them through the winter.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: David K on October 03, 2011, 08:56:24
Quote from: Digeroo on October 03, 2011, 08:30:18
I have just put some in.  I would very much appreciate advice about how to keep them through the winter.

Hi, Digeroo

Sweet peas are extremely hardy and are best kept in an open coldframe over winter. Maybe if temperatures reach -10 you may then consider closing the frame & throwing a piece of old carpet (or similar) over it.

I would add that single biggest reason for failure is coddling them.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Chrispy on October 03, 2011, 09:09:37
Can I tag a question on.....
If I collect some seeds from this years plants, can I sow them straight away?
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: grannyjanny on October 03, 2011, 09:52:38
Do Autumn sown ones need chitting or soaking?
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: David K on October 03, 2011, 10:29:26
Quote from: Chrispy on October 03, 2011, 09:09:37
Can I tag a question on.....
If I collect some seeds from this years plants, can I sow them straight away?

Yes, providing they are ripe.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: David K on October 03, 2011, 12:02:19
Quote from: grannyjanny on October 03, 2011, 09:52:38
Do Autumn sown ones need chitting or soaking?

Not at all!
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: manicscousers on October 03, 2011, 12:55:35
Just sowed 35 pots of our saved from this years seed  ;D
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: grannyjanny on October 03, 2011, 13:37:22
Thank you David ;D.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: elvis2003 on October 03, 2011, 14:00:18
just been discussing this with OH,is there a real reason for autumn sowing or is it done just because we can?
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: grannyjanny on October 03, 2011, 14:02:17
I think they make stronger plants sown in the Autumn.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: elvis2003 on October 03, 2011, 14:04:02
thanks GJ
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Digeroo on October 03, 2011, 16:33:19
Many thanks for the replies and the extra questions.  I normally sow in Feb, so though I would try some now.  Got some in Wyevale 50p so not so worried if I murder them.

35 pots is a huge number manics.   How many to a pot?  I think I will hove down to the garden centre to get some recycled pots.  What size are best?
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: manicscousers on October 03, 2011, 18:13:58
Ours are 3 to a pot, digeroo, they're for the plant sale next year, we get some early blooms and stronger plants for it. They get planted out into morrisons black buckets, 3 lots with canes in. I use rootrainers but also, we have toilet roll inners and used polystyrene cups  :)
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Digeroo on October 03, 2011, 19:11:48
Do they get eaten by voles, mice and slugs etc.  Our local garden centre have a help yourself pot recycling bin, so they are not an issue.

Perhaps I should cover the pots with plastic bottles like I do for eating peas.

Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: garrett on October 04, 2011, 20:28:13
I sowed some yesterday as I want to try autumn sowing for the first time. I'm going to sow the rest of the packet in spring and then compare the plants in summer and see what difference it makes.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Aden Roller on October 06, 2011, 23:24:11
My dad always sowed sweet peas in the autumn and his plants were tough and sturdy. For some reason I've always left mine to the spring then found they are hit and miss for germination and can become quite thin and leggy until planted out so.........

ASP I'm going to have a go at autumn sowing too.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: elvis2003 on October 07, 2011, 00:34:57
I just set some seed from seeds i collected from this year so lets see .................
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: lavenderlux on October 07, 2011, 08:11:35
I Autumn sow my sweet peas and have just sown some of this year's harvest, I had some of T&M's new blue ballerina ones this year and they were fantastic - I soaked seeds first and them germinated them on damp kitchen roll before sowing.   I cut off the first initial growing shoot when the second is about an inch long, as this ones makes a sturdier shoot to grow. 
I don't find mice or voles to be a problem.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Digeroo on October 07, 2011, 08:58:25
QuoteI don't find mice or voles to be a problem.

But is this because you do not have voles and mice.  I am finding voles an ever increasing problem.  I had never seen one five years ago and now they are everywhere.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: manicscousers on October 07, 2011, 14:17:56
60% of mine are showing  ;D
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Morris on October 07, 2011, 14:45:36
Autumn sowing definitely make stronger plants. The root system is much more developed. They flower earlier too - I've had them in full flower in early May, depending on the weather (absolutely not the past couple of years!!)

If I miss autumn, I always go for late winter, Jan/Feb. Imo, later than that they never do so well.

I grow mine in root-trainers.

Lavender, I've never heard of cutting off the first shoot?

Manics, I bet those plants sell well!
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: manicscousers on October 07, 2011, 16:35:18
We did 40 buckets last year, first to go  ;D
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: pansy potter on October 07, 2011, 16:41:06
I haven't grown any for a few years but I always used to cut the first straggler off when the second shoot was a good size and that was the shoot that went up the cane.
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Aden Roller on October 08, 2011, 03:12:19
Mine were sown on Friday.

Here's hoping!!  :)
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: louise stella on October 08, 2011, 09:58:19
I save my seed and sew them in autumn - I find I get better plants - and they're free!  MIne are all tucked in and ready to grow!
Title: Re: Autumn Sown Sweet Peas
Post by: Aden Roller on October 08, 2011, 10:43:13
Quote from: louise stella on October 08, 2011, 09:58:19
I save my seed and sew them in autumn - I find I get better plants - and they're free!  MIne are all tucked in and ready to grow!


I've given my tray & pot fulls a good soak (from underneath) but I hope I haven't over done the water now that the cold has arrived. No more water or they'll rot.  :(