Here is something worth the couple of minutes to view: a 360 panorama of the Discovery crew cabin flight deck. This is pretty cool----and maybe the last time we get to see it before it's stuffed and mounted at the Smithsonian!
ENJOY
Lighting is from the internal instrument panel lights.
Click here to start (http://360vr.com/2011/06/22-discovery-flight-deck-opf_6236/index.html)
Explore Discovery's flight deck ... hold down the left mouse button and move your mouse around and you can pan in all directions. Just imagine you're cruising along at 17,000 mph, and maneuvering to join up with the International Space Station!!
I see they have the curtains closed....I wonder who they think might look in? ;D....and I couldn't see a kettle anywhere!!
Steve...:)
Although you have to wonder at the logic of scrapping it.
Its like buying a top of the range BMW, and a mountian holiday home in the Cairngorms, miles from nowhere, then a few years later you scrap the BMW and decide to rely on the Russian neighbours next door and their Reliant Robin to get you there and back every time instead.
interesting that the US Army budget for air-conditioning for troops in Iraq is bigger than the entire NASA budget..........
but maybe it's a good thing we don't try going Anywhere Else til we're sorted out Here to everyone's satisfaction
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on September 07, 2011, 09:16:13
interesting that the US Army budget for air-conditioning for troops in Iraq is bigger than the entire NASA budget..........
but maybe it's a good thing we don't try going Anywhere Else til we're sorted out Here to everyone's satisfaction
An intersting thought there. ;) I wonder if we will ever sort this place out to everyone's satisfaction. :-\
I think Chris Columbus was right to get sailing rather than wait for the folks at home to sort their problems out. ;)
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on September 07, 2011, 09:16:13
interesting that the US Army budget for air-conditioning for troops in Iraq is bigger than the entire NASA budget..........
but maybe it's a good thing we don't try going Anywhere Else til we're sorted out Here to everyone's satisfaction
Man is doomed unless he gets out amongst the stars. The resources on this planet will last only a finite amount of time, whereas mankind contunues to expand in terms of population, technology and resource demands. Unless we populate the galaxy, with its infinite resources, the ultimate fate of man on this planet will be to exhaust it, and wither and die.
Read this, its a serious eye opener....
http://www.futuretimeline.net/
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on September 08, 2011, 09:27:22
the galaxy, with its infinite resources
All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!
Quote from: OllieC on September 08, 2011, 12:11:12
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on September 08, 2011, 09:27:22
the galaxy, with its infinite resources
All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!
Are there not an infinite number of galaxies in an infinite universe?
Just thinkin'!
:P
Quote from: OllieC on September 08, 2011, 12:11:12
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on September 08, 2011, 09:27:22
the galaxy, with its infinite resources
All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!
but where do thing go then. after they've been used up?
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on September 08, 2011, 12:38:45
Quote from: OllieC on September 08, 2011, 12:11:12
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on September 08, 2011, 09:27:22
the galaxy, with its infinite resources
All galaxies are finite and therefore all "resources" contained within are finite too. Just sayin'!
but where do thing go then. after they've been used up?
Matter can be neither created nor destroyed.
Energy is another form of matter
Information is another form of Energy.
All you do is convert from one to the other. Nothing is lost or destroyed. Matter/Energy/Information all obey the Universe's laws on conservation, in the same way that momentum and spin do.
The Universe is in practice infinite within our current realms of measurement.
The Amount of matter in the universe is therefore also infinite, and to make matters worse, there probably 10 times more Dark Matter than ordinary matter than we can observe. So I think it very unlikely that even at some vastly distant point in the future, we will use all the resources of the universe.
Woah, Information obeys the laws of Physics? This is a new one on me...
There's a good documentary called Wall-E which shows what happens to stuff once it's been used up.
Quote from: OllieC on September 08, 2011, 13:26:56
Woah, Information obeys the laws of Physics? This is a new one on me...
There's a good documentary called Wall-E which shows what happens to stuff once it's been used up.
Yes but you have to realise were talking about particle physics information - sub atomic mass, spin, and momentum, not who won the 3:30 at Pontefract.
Thers a huge debate about a thing called Hawkings Information paradox, all to do with what happens to the information that vanishes into a Black Hole when its carried in by the black hole absorbing a prticle. When the black hole evaporates, there's a final poof of energy, and it all vanishes, including the information inside, which violates the Second law of Thermodynamics. Hawkings himself came up with a REALLY lame, naff explanation, but I dont buy it, and neither does a lot of the science world.
So its all still under debate at the moment.
Be careful though, even Relativity is a liberal conspiracy.
http://conservapedia.com/Relativity
Those seats don't look very comfy...
:-[
Relativity is old hat. It fails to explain various things such as wave particle duality of photons. Even Quantum theory has its shortcomings such its failure to provide a quantum theory of gravity. Neither theory offers any explanation as to exactly how mass arises and precisely why the dimensionality of spacetime is four.
The main game now at stuff like String Theory and Twistor theory.
You're right, Relativity is rubbish. And a liberal conspiracy.
we don't want to peak too early. These nit-picking threads are more fun and last longer in the middle of winter when we're all a bit more narky
it's hard to get all worked up and anankastic when the sun's still shining outside
actually lincs Twistor theory is old hat. Cutting edge Space Cadets are all into Kerplunk Theory these days
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on September 08, 2011, 21:20:19
we don't want to peak too early. These nit-picking threads are more fun and last longer in the middle of winter when we're all a bit more narky
it's hard to get all worked up and anankastic when the sun's still shining outside
actually lincs Twistor theory is old hat. Cutting edge Space Cadets are all into Kerplunk Theory these days
Twistor theory is a really smart theory invented by Roger Penrose, the guy who invented half the images that M C Escher nicked and took the credit for. It is a deep theory that explains how the three dimensionality of space time arises out of complex points called twistors, the mind numbing bit is that spacetime is probably eleven or twenty six dimensions. Dont even try to grasp it, i can get to five dimensions mentally and thats it.
Quote from: OllieC on September 08, 2011, 21:46:29
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on September 08, 2011, 21:20:19
nit-picking
Don't you mean knit-picking?
no, hes correct.
You do not pick 'knits' out of hair, you pick 'nits' , which is where the phrase somes from.
Neither do you 'nit' wool, you 'knit' it.
Addaboy!
This is too much so early - think I'm going back to bed.
Quote from: Poppy Mole on September 09, 2011, 08:14:23
This is too much so early - think I'm going back to bed.
Ah, see you tomorrow then.
Entropy is on the increase!!
Quote from: InfraDig on September 09, 2011, 08:50:49
Entropy is on the increase!!
Funny you should say that, at the end of my second year Thermal Physics course a friend wrote TdS on the feedback form. It's as funny as Physics gets.
lincsyokel2...... this is such good news as I didn't know that information could not be destroyed. Excellent news!! 8)
You said:
"Matter can be neither created nor destroyed.
Energy is another form of matter
Information is another form of Energy."
So.... does that mean my Allotment Diary for 2009 written and saved in MS Word is there somewhere just waiting for me to look in the right place. I saved over it one late evening in 2010. >:(
Now I expect you are going to disappoint me by saying is does exist but in another form. :-\
Quote from: OllieC on September 09, 2011, 09:13:16
Quote from: InfraDig on September 09, 2011, 08:50:49
Entropy is on the increase!!
Funny you should say that, at the end of my second year Thermal Physics course a friend wrote TdS on the feedback form. It's as funny as Physics gets.
So two neutrinos go through a bar....
Ill get my coat..
Quote from: Aden Roller on September 09, 2011, 15:53:33
lincsyokel2...... this is such good news as I didn't know that information could not be destroyed. Excellent news!! 8)
You said:
"Matter can be neither created nor destroyed.
Energy is another form of matter
Information is another form of Energy."
So.... does that mean my Allotment Diary for 2009 written and saved in MS Word is there somewhere just waiting for me to look in the right place. I saved over it one late evening in 2010. >:(
Now I expect you are going to disappoint me by saying is does exist but in another form. :-\
You're diary still exists unless you burnt it, in which case its been converted to energy.
Quote from: InfraDig on September 09, 2011, 08:50:49
Entropy is on the increase!!
If you thought was was funny, i can beat it
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/a/1/0a1c02498125a255a2f5b0e58908a8ae.png)
Hiesenburg may have been here.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4KDEe9K_16FY9w9I_s-AxlfDLNt4xGGBHccX_B6IoQRl85rfz)
(At least, we thought it was hilarious at Uni)
Quote from: BarriedaleNick on September 09, 2011, 17:20:16
Quote from: OllieC on September 09, 2011, 09:13:16
Quote from: InfraDig on September 09, 2011, 08:50:49
Entropy is on the increase!!
Funny you should say that, at the end of my second year Thermal Physics course a friend wrote TdS on the feedback form. It's as funny as Physics gets.
So two neutrinos go through a bar....
Ill get my coat..
Haha, nice. 2 atoms walking down the street, one says "I think I've lost an electron...", "Are you sure?", "Yes, I'm positive"
Dr Who!
<knock, knock>
Who's there?