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Title: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 15, 2011, 14:54:36
Hi all, I grew some fennel and I ahve realised it was the herb type not the bulb type, which is fine as I will let it go to seed and use it in cooking. :)

Can anyone tell me what seeds I need to get for next year so that I do have the bulb variety and any recommendations of types? ???

Thank you.
;D
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: grawrc on July 15, 2011, 15:41:48
it's Florence fennel you want. Can't think of any varieties to recommend though! >:(
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: lincsyokel2 on July 15, 2011, 20:17:39
Quote from: Gadget on July 15, 2011, 14:54:36
Hi all, I grew some fennel and I ahve realised it was the herb type not the bulb type, which is fine as I will let it go to seed and use it in cooking. :)

Can anyone tell me what seeds I need to get for next year so that I do have the bulb variety and any recommendations of types? ???

Thank you.
;D

The sort you have produces a tap root like a carrot, i surmise this root must be eatable, but ive never tried Does anyoen know how to cook it ?. I have a HUGE patch of it i n a massive wooden planter, i love the fluffy foilage, and the massive bag of seeds it creates every year i use in cooking
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Unwashed on July 15, 2011, 20:39:12
Quote from: Gadget on July 15, 2011, 14:54:36
Hi all, I grew some fennel and I ahve realised it was the herb type not the bulb type, which is fine as I will let it go to seed and use it in cooking. :)

Can anyone tell me what seeds I need to get for next year so that I do have the bulb variety and any recommendations of types? ???

Thank you.
;D
Argh!  Fennel is a nasty weed if you let it self-seed as it germinates very well and the seedlings send down a great tap root making it really difficult to get out.  One's lovely (especially the bronze one), but don't let it set seed.

You need florence fennel next year.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: cleo on July 15, 2011, 20:51:10
I grow `rudy` which does well on my very light soil. I have tried zefa fino but it just bolts as soon as it`s looked at.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: grannyjanny on July 15, 2011, 20:54:16
I don't think it's to late to sow fennel seed.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Bugloss2009 on July 15, 2011, 21:33:24
i think the RHS say the cut off date for sowing is up to the last week in July. Then it's just down to the weather, but don't expect uber bulbs.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 18, 2011, 11:10:18
It does have a massive tap root, I think that I may get some seeds for Florence Fennel and see how I get on.

Thank you for all your advice. :)
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: antipodes on July 18, 2011, 11:16:21
Oh yes definitely do NOT let herb fennel self seed! You will have it EVERYWHERE and it is a bartsfard to get rid of! The root breaks off and it germinates all over the place. It is very invasive. I now hate the stuff, have been trying to get rid of it all for the last 2 years!
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 18, 2011, 11:17:05
Quote from: antipodes on July 18, 2011, 11:16:21
Oh yes definitely do NOT let herb fennel self seed! You will have it EVERYWHERE and it is a bartsfard to get rid of! The root breaks off and it germinates all over the place. It is very invasive. I now hate the stuff, have been trying to get rid of it all for the last 2 years!

No good  ???
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 18, 2011, 11:18:43
I will dig the lot up tonight when I get home, not liking the sound of rampantness of the plant...I have enough blimming problems with me nettles..  :)
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: fi on July 18, 2011, 11:24:30
Sorry to differ,  but it's not that bad to dig up just get it early enough when small (if self seeded) if left you will attract many beneficial insects.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: lincsyokel2 on July 18, 2011, 11:27:31
yes, when its three feet high  it has a tap root like a carrot that pulls out easily. Its not a problem.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: goodlife on July 18, 2011, 11:46:16
I don't find bronze fennel troublesome at all..?..yes..it does self seed everywhere but the foliage doesn't really cast a shade for other plants..I don't see a problem...they are not 'hungry or thirsty' plants neither and grow happily even in 'waste' bits of land.
I do admit it..I've got it all over but when I walk over them the is such a delicious smell in the air...I've even thought of making some tea out of it..but aniseed flavour just don't 'do it' to me..
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: fi on July 18, 2011, 11:50:22
Previous message badly written, you won't personally attract the insects. but the umbellifer flowers of the fennel will!!
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: grannyjanny on July 18, 2011, 11:55:48
Goodlife. Fennel tea is good for hormones. I think it's a balancer. Not that you are unbalanced my dear ;D.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: goodlife on July 18, 2011, 12:07:01
Nice to know that..but what if it does opposite..that would just my luck.. ::) OH is having hard time enough with me as it is.. :o ;D..top that with hormones all over the place more than once a month and I'll be left to live alone or I'll be digging really deep 'pumpkin pit'..6ft deep for 'composting' reasons... :-X
It might be safer to just keep sniffing the things.. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: shirlton on July 18, 2011, 12:25:38
I am growing Foothergills. "Di Firenze" and its looking good. Didn't sow it too early so up to yet it hasn't bolted.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: antipodes on July 19, 2011, 10:17:00
I find the tap root is really hard to get out.  Just sharing my experience. I would not sow it again as I found it too hard to get rid of. Of course if you keep it rigourously under control, maybe it would be OK. It wouldn't be my choice of flowers to attract insects though!

I was reading that you should sow Bulb Fennel later (like, now!) to avoid it bolting, Think it was Alys Fowler that said this... None of mine will eat it so I don't grow it myself.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Bugloss2009 on July 19, 2011, 10:39:16
there's an old Celtic saying that if a man can walk past a clump of fennel without his heart singing with joy, then there's no saying what kind of mischief he'll get up to. But that's the Welsh for you.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: brown thumb on July 19, 2011, 11:26:23
gadget i have some Florance fennel seeds if you would like some
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: lincsyokel2 on July 19, 2011, 13:57:17
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on July 19, 2011, 10:39:16
there's an old Celtic saying that if a man can walk past a clump of fennel without his heart singing with joy, then there's no saying what kind of mischief he'll get up to. But that's the Welsh for you.

I thought that referred to sheep, not  fennel............
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 19, 2011, 15:24:03
Quote from: brown thumb on July 19, 2011, 11:26:23
gadget i have some Florance fennel seeds if you would like some

That would be fabulous, shall I pm you my address, I have a random selection of seeds that I can swap  ;D
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 19, 2011, 15:24:30
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on July 19, 2011, 13:57:17
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on July 19, 2011, 10:39:16
there's an old Celtic saying that if a man can walk past a clump of fennel without his heart singing with joy, then there's no saying what kind of mischief he'll get up to. But that's the Welsh for you.

I thought that referred to sheep, not  fennel............

Mad the pair of you  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: grannyjanny on July 19, 2011, 15:55:21
Gadget you must have slipped in. Didn't you see that question on the form when joining A4A. You really do need to be bonkers. If not, it won't take long ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Bugloss2009 on July 19, 2011, 15:55:54
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on July 19, 2011, 13:57:17
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on July 19, 2011, 10:39:16
there's an old Celtic saying that if a man can walk past a clump of fennel without his heart singing with joy, then there's no saying what kind of mischief he'll get up to. But that's the Welsh for you.

I thought that referred to sheep, not  fennel............

Oh god, this thread is going to be full of nasty replies from Welsh people now,  well from the one who can type anyway.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: small on July 19, 2011, 16:07:34
oy wot #do3 u meen %we can TYpe as well as yo lot as canT sing  at All,.
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: Gadget on July 19, 2011, 16:16:51
Quote from: grannyjanny on July 19, 2011, 15:55:21
Gadget you must have slipped in. Didn't you see that question on the form when joining A4A. You really do need to be bonkers. If not, it won't take long ;D ;D ;D.

Nope...must of skipped past that one in my excitement to join.. ;D ;D mind you I did think that once you got past the quarter acre bit that you have officially been accepted as a total loon  :) ;D  I didn't notice any reference to being Welsh though, come from the west country originally do you think that counts?  ;)
Title: Re: Fennel
Post by: shirlton on July 20, 2011, 07:55:00
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