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Produce => Wildlife forum => Topic started by: tim on January 30, 2005, 10:01:27

Title: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: tim on January 30, 2005, 10:01:27
I know I've said it before - this is the last time before I chuck the thing out.

I give them the Hilton (brilliant design) & for 6 months they have ignored it. So - out! = Tim
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: rosebud on January 30, 2005, 13:13:18
What a great shame it looks great, but there has to be a good reason they wont use it i wonder what it is?.  ???
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: sandersj89 on January 30, 2005, 13:43:20
Quote from: rosebud on January 30, 2005, 13:13:18
What a great shame it looks great, but there has to be a good reason they wont use it i wonder what it is?.  ???

Could be the reflections from the globe that is putting them off. How about giving it a quick spray of paint to take the edge of it?

Jerry
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: tim on January 30, 2005, 17:04:08
Nice thought. But - they wouldn't  then see the seeds inside?? = Tim
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: sandersj89 on January 30, 2005, 21:25:10
Quote from: tim on January 30, 2005, 17:04:08
Nice thought. But - they wouldn't  then see the seeds inside?? = Tim

I think they may still see them, especially with the lower fat ball hanging below the globe. And once they suss out that the food is there there will be nothing to stop them!

Jerry
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: tim on January 31, 2005, 08:38:10
Strangely, they hardly ever touch the fat either.

I'm going to try something & I'll report back. = Tim
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: Marianne on January 31, 2005, 15:18:50
I think the problem stems from the fact that birds do not like to feel "trapped" and will therefore not enter the globe.  It's a shame but that is how they are.

Say if a cat approached, they could not fly "up" but woule be forced down and into the cat's mouth. 
:o
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: tim on January 31, 2005, 18:15:35
Miles above cats, but good thinking. So why do the 'bird experts' design such an expensive - & apparently well thought out - thing?? = Tim
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: sandersj89 on January 31, 2005, 19:01:13
Quote from: tim on January 31, 2005, 18:15:35
Miles above cats, but good thinking. So why do the 'bird experts' design such an expensive - & apparently well thought out - thing?? = Tim

As in so many things these days........design before function!

Jerry
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: Marianne on January 31, 2005, 20:48:35
Tim

These bird feeders are not always manufactured by bird lovers - some of them obviously want to sell their products without unfortunately thinking any further than that.

But I am 99% sure that is the problem with the one that you own.  The birds know of the danger of entrapment, should a cat or other predator approach whilst they are feeding.

Can you take the "bowl" bit appart?


Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: tim on February 01, 2005, 08:27:59
Sadly no. Its whole design is to give constant food in a rainproof, squirrel-proof, poo-proof - & bird-proof(?) - manner. But I have plans. = Tim
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: Marianne on February 01, 2005, 11:35:12
Tim,

I was wondering whether it would be possible to drill some holes (say about 8 inches diameter) in the said plastic bowl - this would then enable the feeding birds to fly away should the necessity arise.  If drilling is not possible, maybe a solder gun or similar tool would then melt the plastic. 
The seed would still remain dry (ish) and the birds would like it better.

wish you luck with your plans ! ;)
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: Yellow Petals on March 05, 2005, 19:50:16
That's a very good idea Marianne :)

Any news, Tim?
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: skypilot on March 05, 2005, 20:17:46
Tim, I think a domesticated bird would revel in that design, but like some of the other contributors, I feel that wild birds would feel too insecure to enter it.

I would suggest boring a hole each side at the seed hoppers and putting a small perch either side (on the outside of the globe) at base level.

I would then cut out a rectangular panel on the seed hopper either side of the globe
and replace it by glueing  suitable gauze to allow the birds access to the seed inside.

Rather defeats the objkect of the initial design but I think it would work then. :)
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: Georgie on March 05, 2005, 20:39:48
And just to add insult to injury, can I just pass on a piece of advice I read recently about not using plastic netting for bird food.  Apparently birds can injure themselves on the netting by getting their claws entangled.  If you buy nuts or fat balls like this, take them out of the netting and drop into a suitable plastic or metal feeder.  Defeats the object of a ready made dispenser, I know, but I hate the idea of good intentions leading to harm. 

G xx
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: lilylover on March 06, 2005, 00:10:58
Just to confirm georgie's message.. I have 3 fat balls in netting hanging on one tree and a fat ball container in another minus netting.....guess which one is used  ;) Yep ..netless......those with netting totally ignored ::)
Title: Re: What a plebs lot they are!!
Post by: Multiveg on March 06, 2005, 21:40:15
The blue tits and other birdies don't object to the netted fat balls in the wire frame thingy - they seem quite tame as my little monster is able to stand about 6ft away saying "Birdie" with them not flying away every time!