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Title: Spring onions from sets
Post by: lillian on June 22, 2011, 16:39:28
This year I decided to  grow spring onions from sets rather then sow seed with good results. I wondered if I were to plant some more sets now would I get a  autumn crop?
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: lillian on June 22, 2011, 16:55:49
Found a post on another gardening forum. Apparently you can plant sets in July and August for a autumn and winter crop. So I'm off to buy some sets on ebay. :)
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: cornykev on June 23, 2011, 05:21:55
 ??? :-\
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: tomatoada on June 23, 2011, 07:25:50
I have never come across sets for spring onions.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: InfraDig on June 23, 2011, 07:30:40
I have used small onion sets in pots as spring onion replacements if needed, but always grown spring onions from seed, including winter hardy types
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: lillian on June 23, 2011, 07:38:27
Quote from: cornykev on June 23, 2011, 05:21:55
??? :-\

I totally fail at germinating spring onion seed and it the same every year. Don't have the same problem with leek or ordinary onions seed.  

http://www.growveg.com/growblogpost.aspx?id=182
http://www.kitchengarden.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1750
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: lillian on June 23, 2011, 07:41:51
Quote from: tomatoada on June 23, 2011, 07:25:50
I have never come across sets for spring onions.


Just use the ordinary mild onion sets.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: davyw1 on June 23, 2011, 08:54:09
Have i got this right.

What you do is set your onions away as normal to produce normal globe onions. You also set away the same sets at intervals but just pull them early before they fill out which is , basically a large spring onion.
If this is correct then i think it would work as an onion depending on the weather is a sixty day crop. Although i dont see the point when you can plant Welsh Bunching Onion  and have them vertualy all year round and never have to bother with spring onions.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: lillian on June 23, 2011, 10:23:53
Just plant the sets closer together then you would normally and use them as immature onions. Am now using onions planted 4/5 weeks ago for this purpose and they are Delicious much nicer than normal spring onions. As for Welsh bunching onions I have no experience of them...
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: manicscousers on June 23, 2011, 10:26:08
One of the older blokes on our site uses all his shallots as spring onions  :)
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: torquil on June 23, 2011, 11:09:38
I use shallots as spring onions as do a lot more on our site taste delicious. pick them before they grow too  big  that way they are not too strong. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: grawrc on June 23, 2011, 11:55:07
Is it not quite a pricey way to get spring onions? Mind you I'm sure they'll taste fabulous. I certainly grow Long Red Florence and use as spring onions, but from seed, which is considerably cheaper.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: grannyjanny on June 23, 2011, 12:16:07
I think someone mentioned doing this last year when onion sets were down to 50p in Wilkies. I did it on daughters plot & they were lovely.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: Russell on June 23, 2011, 12:26:39
My shallot crop always has a few which are too small to eat but which if saved and planted next spring will make great spring onions.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: lillian on June 23, 2011, 13:33:24
Quote from: grawrc on June 23, 2011, 11:55:07
Is it not quite a pricey way to get spring onions? Mind you I'm sure they'll taste fabulous. I certainly grow Long Red Florence and use as spring onions, but from seed, which is considerably cheaper.

I've spent alot on spring onion  seed in the past that have not germinated and I sure I'm not the only one ::)
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: grawrc on June 23, 2011, 14:05:02
Fair enough. No point doing it if it doesn't work for you. I think I must just have been lucky.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: pigeonseed on June 23, 2011, 14:09:11
yes I don't know why spring onions don't germinate when normal onions seem to germinate really reliably.

If spring onions are such rubbish germinators, why don't we all give up and go back to growing normal onions from seed, and eating them young, which is surely where spring onions as a crop came from in the first place? (Thinnings?)

Good point about welsh onions davyw1
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: antipodes on June 23, 2011, 14:11:17
I never manage spring onions, hopeless. I usually get a few spring onions by leaving the very smallest onions in to over winter: they always come back up and every time I go down, I grab one or two, just enough for a salad or stirfry!
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: goodlife on June 23, 2011, 14:19:01
I used to have bit hit and miss results with spring onion seeds untill I started to cover the seed with grit rather than sieved compost. Ever since I've been having super germination.
I wonder if it is the weight of the grit that holds the moisture and weights the seeds against the compost.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: Spudbash on June 23, 2011, 16:14:10
I bought some bags of shallot and onion sets very cheaply just a few weeks ago and have planted some in containers as an experiment.

At 20p a bag for the onion sets, I can hardly go far wrong, can I?!  ;D
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: davyw1 on June 23, 2011, 18:42:30
What i did a lot of years ago with a packet of Red Barron onion seed was to plant them as spring onion then when they were ready as spring onion i left the first one to grow on and picked the next half dozen or so and left the next one and so on so i got my spring onions and the ones i left i let grow into onion bulbs so i got the best of both.

Now there is something for you to try.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: Anisemary on June 24, 2011, 00:22:14
I could never grow spring onions until I started to sow them in small modules, 8 or 9 in each section, then planted them out in bunches 6" apart. I am now harvesting bunches every two or three days, and still sowing in the modules for later. Apparently the variety I am growing ( Ishikura?)  can be used like this, or even left to develop into small onions.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: JimB on June 24, 2011, 10:35:58
I don't have any problem with spring onions but they do take time to get to a good size, so I use shallot sets at the beginning of the season to get an early crop of spring onions.
Each set gives about bunch of spring onions so only use about 6 sets.
Also start my first lot of spring onions in modules in the greenhouse.
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: cornykev on June 25, 2011, 05:22:58
Bump for Cam.  ;)
Title: Re: Spring onions from sets
Post by: Duke Ellington on June 25, 2011, 07:23:18
Quote from: Anisemary on June 24, 2011, 00:22:14
I could never grow spring onions until I started to sow them in small modules, 8 or 9 in each section, then planted them out in bunches 6" apart. I am now harvesting bunches every two or three days, and still sowing in the modules for later. Apparently the variety I am growing ( Ishikura?)  can be used like this, or even left to develop into small onions.

Me too and I use a very sandy compost to sow them in. I grew some lovely furio and white Lisbon spring onions this year. The furio are now quote large so I use them as shallots. I will continue to sow my spring onions in modules.

Duke