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Title: Weedkiller Help
Post by: hightower on May 19, 2011, 09:01:27
Well, my strimming has been going well but I decided last week that I was going to use weed killer this year to get the garden up to a decent standard before switching to organic methods.

I have about 400sq metres of garden space so what do people think of this to do the weed killing?

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/weedkillers+insecticides/wilko-glyphosate-systemic-weedkiller-concentrate-1ltr/invt/0223726/?htxt=7%2F4VFXSOR07u4ZjHosdqPn4A3K%2BibIaa077ZGqfV8l%2FsM19esNuLz3bWfSoWjsVCsXYoqBWnlPd7%0A5gAB61mLVQ%3D%3D

and a one of these to spray it in

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/watering-cans+pressure-sprayers/wilko-pressure-sprayer-3ltr/invt/0138007/?htxt=9dI6GofbgDf1YXHfA1Ajg%2B7diX%2B%2BBn%2B%2FPcbdDaSLMatjGXRKDArQuwTiokoSf9Gt%2FXlDcaSWZ1Xi%0A2t4R8C8umQ%3D%3D
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: Ellen K on May 19, 2011, 09:24:01
Looks fine price wise.  Had a gander at your blog and I'd be buying 2 bottles of glyphosate - it is a jungle out there.  Good luck  :)
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: hightower on May 19, 2011, 09:36:22
Quote from: DenbyVisitor on May 19, 2011, 09:24:01
Looks fine price wise.  Had a gander at your blog and I'd be buying 2 bottles of glyphosate - it is a jungle out there.  Good luck  :)

Hehe, thanks :) It's certainly going to take some work, but it's not the weeds I'm worried about. My grandad was a horder and the cabin is littered with rubbish, as well as the old cabin which hasn't been used in years. There's also an old aloy caravan in the back of the garden and I still have no idea how to discard of everything.
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: jimtheworzel on May 19, 2011, 12:33:17
just had a look at hombase web site, and its £16.49 a ltr

jim
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: woppa30 on May 19, 2011, 12:47:11
If you really want a lot...
http://www.pitchcare.com/shop/glyphosate-based-herbicides-and-weed-killers/rosate-36-5l-glyphosate.html

5L comes to ~£50 with VAT and delivery. Only difference is the homebase stuff is 96g/L and this stuff is 360g/L, that 5L bottle will do ~10 000m2

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: BarriedaleNick on May 19, 2011, 13:01:38
Concider a spare watering can to do this with. Often when spraying weedkiller it tends to drift!
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: hightower on May 19, 2011, 13:04:32
Quote from: BarriedaleNick on May 19, 2011, 13:01:38
Concider a spare watering can to do this with. Often when spraying weedkiller it tends to drift!

I know, this is something that I'm worried about as would hate to ruin next doors crops. Should I just get another watering can instead of the pump spray?
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: flutemaster on May 19, 2011, 13:21:52
I've used glyphosate for a long time it is very good but you have to give it time to work.It's very expensive so use only on weeds such as couch grass,bind weed,covolvulous?brambles I also have mares tail so I paint on the weedkiller neat with an artists brush and cover with clear plastic container.For other weeds I cover my plot with black plastic.Do you know any farmers as they are  issued with a holding number and are able to get their version cheaper(it's still glyphosate)I managed to get agallon of the stuff and I've had it over 3 years now using a solution of 10ml to 1ltrAnyway good luck
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: Ben Acre on May 19, 2011, 13:35:48
Our associtaion supplies "swift"  at £5.50 a pint, mix 10ml per gallon, It is very good.

One regret is that I did not renew my spraying licence for Paraquat and Dicot this killed weeds in minutes.

Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: BarriedaleNick on May 19, 2011, 14:20:21
Quote from: hightower on May 19, 2011, 13:04:32
Quote from: BarriedaleNick on May 19, 2011, 13:01:38
Concider a spare watering can to do this with. Often when spraying weedkiller it tends to drift!

I know, this is something that I'm worried about as would hate to ruin next doors crops. Should I just get another watering can instead of the pump spray?

Up to you but a spray can be OK as long as it is a very still day.  For large areas a watering can might be preferable..
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: hightower on May 19, 2011, 14:27:43
Quote from: BarriedaleNick on May 19, 2011, 14:20:21
Quote from: hightower on May 19, 2011, 13:04:32
Quote from: BarriedaleNick on May 19, 2011, 13:01:38
Concider a spare watering can to do this with. Often when spraying weedkiller it tends to drift!

I know, this is something that I'm worried about as would hate to ruin next doors crops. Should I just get another watering can instead of the pump spray?

Up to you but a spray can be OK as long as it is a very still day.  For large areas a watering can might be preferable..

I think I'll just go with the watering can method. Last thing I want is to ruin next door on my first week.
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: ceres on May 19, 2011, 14:38:22
Quote from: woppa30 on May 19, 2011, 12:47:11
If you really want a lot...
http://www.pitchcare.com/shop/glyphosate-based-herbicides-and-weed-killers/rosate-36-5l-glyphosate.html

5L comes to ~£50 with VAT and delivery. Only difference is the homebase stuff is 96g/L and this stuff is 360g/L, that 5L bottle will do ~10 000m2

Hope this helps

This is a professional use only product.  It's illegal to purchase and use it unless you have the appropriate certification and training.
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: ceres on May 19, 2011, 14:43:53
Quote from: flutemaster on May 19, 2011, 13:21:52
I've used glyphosate for a long time it is very good but you have to give it time to work.It's very expensive so use only on weeds such as couch grass,bind weed,covolvulous?brambles I also have mares tail so I paint on the weedkiller neat with an artists brush and cover with clear plastic container.For other weeds I cover my plot with black plastic.Do you know any farmers as they are  issued with a holding number and are able to get their version cheaper(it's still glyphosate)I managed to get agallon of the stuff and I've had it over 3 years now using a solution of 10ml to 1ltrAnyway good luck

Products used by farmers are professional use only products and are illegal to use unless you have the appropriate certification and training.  It's illegal for the farmer to supply such products to a third party and it's illegal for the third party to use them. 

Any further posts encouraging new members/plotholders to disregard the pesticides regulations will be removed.
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on May 19, 2011, 17:04:35
Quote from: hightower on May 19, 2011, 09:01:27
Well, my strimming has been going well but I decided last week that I was going to use weed killer this year to get the garden up to a decent standard before switching to organic methods.

I have about 400sq metres of garden space so what do people think of this to do the weed killing?

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/weedkillers+insecticides/wilko-glyphosate-systemic-weedkiller-concentrate-1ltr/invt/0223726/?htxt=7%2F4VFXSOR07u4ZjHosdqPn4A3K%2BibIaa077ZGqfV8l%2FsM19esNuLz3bWfSoWjsVCsXYoqBWnlPd7%0A5gAB61mLVQ%3D%3D


That's the one that I use. Watering can or spray will be fine - if you have a big area the watering can will probably be quicker.  :)
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: hightower on May 20, 2011, 08:30:23
Quote from: RobinOfTheHood on May 19, 2011, 17:04:35
Quote from: hightower on May 19, 2011, 09:01:27
Well, my strimming has been going well but I decided last week that I was going to use weed killer this year to get the garden up to a decent standard before switching to organic methods.

I have about 400sq metres of garden space so what do people think of this to do the weed killing?

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/weedkillers+insecticides/wilko-glyphosate-systemic-weedkiller-concentrate-1ltr/invt/0223726/?htxt=7%2F4VFXSOR07u4ZjHosdqPn4A3K%2BibIaa077ZGqfV8l%2FsM19esNuLz3bWfSoWjsVCsXYoqBWnlPd7%0A5gAB61mLVQ%3D%3D


That's the one that I use. Watering can or spray will be fine - if you have a big area the watering can will probably be quicker.  :)

Thanks, based on what people have told me I'm going with the watering can method. I bought a nice big shiny red one yesterday (so I know that red is for weed killer!). I just finished the last of the strimming last night. I'm eager to get the weed killer on, but how long should I wait after strimming?
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: woppa30 on May 20, 2011, 10:13:18
Didn't mean to suggest anybody breaks the law, there ws nothing obvious on the web site to suggest you needed a certificate etc but then I didn't go all the way to the final checkout so wasn't asked for proof of certificate etc. Stumbled upon it aftera  google search.

Use much nastier stuff at work but hey ho there you go...

Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: BarriedaleNick on May 20, 2011, 11:03:14
Anytime after strimming will be fine - its a good time of year as everything is in growth mode so systemic weedkillers are more effective..
Title: Re: Weedkiller Help
Post by: hightower on May 20, 2011, 11:09:01
Quote from: BarriedaleNick on May 20, 2011, 11:03:14
Anytime after strimming will be fine - its a good time of year as everything is in growth mode so systemic weedkillers are more effective..

Okay, I know what I'm doing tomorrow then! :)