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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: lillian on March 08, 2011, 20:41:11

Title: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: lillian on March 08, 2011, 20:41:11
Just wondering are yellow crookneck squash, summer crookneck squash and yellow crookneck courgette all the same or different??
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: tai haku on March 10, 2011, 01:07:35
Essentially yes Lillian. Different names may indicate a slightly different seed source but this is an old old form and differences would be minor variations on a theme.
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: firstofficerspong on March 11, 2011, 13:45:43
And to jump in...are they worth growing instead of or in addition to plain courgettes?
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: chriscross1966 on March 11, 2011, 14:43:10
Quote from: firstofficerspong on March 11, 2011, 13:45:43
And to jump in...are they worth growing instead of or in addition to plain courgettes?

Yes.... less watery for starters..... ALso have a look at Rugosa Friuliana squash.... italian warty-skinned crookneck can be used as courgette or squash, I've still got a big one in storage....
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: tai haku on March 11, 2011, 19:36:06
Quote from: firstofficerspong on March 11, 2011, 13:45:43
And to jump in...are they worth growing instead of or in addition to plain courgettes?

I'd say so - when I was out in the caribbean I'd tend to use a mix of the two instead of just courgettes whenever I cooked courgettes. They are a bit less watery as has been said and I think slightly denser. Not vastly different though. I think they look a bit more interesting as well although obviously once you chop em you loose the spectacular warty skin look a bit.
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: firstofficerspong on March 15, 2011, 17:01:16
Thanks. I shall give them a go!
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: 1066 on March 15, 2011, 21:07:33
Quote from: lillian on March 08, 2011, 20:41:11
Just wondering are yellow crookneck squash, summer crookneck squash and yellow crookneck courgette all the same or different??

Why do seed companies muck about with the names? ! Drives me nuts !
Having said that I'm giving them a go this year, based on recommendations from A4A  :)
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: plainleaf on March 15, 2011, 22:57:47
1.IF I  were you i would grow the straight neck variety,
since you loose bit of edibility near the crook.

2 why is it British seed companies seem to call many types summer squashes
courgette when they are not.

3. the correct name for this squash is a "yellow crook neck squash" not a
"Summer crookneck squash or yellow crookneck courgette".
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 16, 2011, 13:06:17
Victorian seed companies used to invent new names for the same old variety all the time; maybe it's the same attitude surviving into yet another century.
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: 1066 on March 17, 2011, 11:11:08
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on March 16, 2011, 13:06:17
Victorian seed companies used to invent new names for the same old variety all the time; maybe it's the same attitude surviving into yet another century.

could well be so Robert!
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: Jeannine on March 17, 2011, 18:41:36
Actually Plainleaf you are wrong.. there is a US seed company that sells all three.. although basically the same thjing they do give them differnt names,,and is a US site not a UK one

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: saddad on March 17, 2011, 18:58:22
QuoteActually Plainleaf you are wrong..
Surely not....  :-X
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: Digeroo on March 18, 2011, 19:10:37
I have found some of the crook necked ones hold their smaller size better than courgettes and so you get fewer huge watery marrows.   Rugosa Friuliana good that way to.

Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: aj on March 18, 2011, 20:27:14
Quote from: Digeroo on March 18, 2011, 19:10:37
 Rugosa Friuliana good that way to.


And a great talking point for kids - they just don't know what to make of them!
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: Digeroo on March 18, 2011, 22:59:38
Kids don't seem to like warting looking things to eat but they do taste good.
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: firstofficerspong on March 18, 2011, 23:45:19
Can you recommend where I can buy seeds of both these varieties please?
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: 1066 on March 19, 2011, 07:31:25
Real Seeds sell - 'Summer Crookneck' listed as a summer squash, don't know about other companies though  :)
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: aj on March 19, 2011, 07:54:58
Seeds of Italy do many fantastic varieties

http://www.seedsofitaly.com/catalogue/8
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: tai haku on March 20, 2011, 08:56:02
Quote from: 1066 on March 19, 2011, 07:31:25
Real Seeds sell - 'Summer Crookneck' listed as a summer squash, don't know about other companies though  :)


I grew real seeds version last year. It didn't do well for me but then neither did any of my other courgettes so take that as you will.....

Most american seed companies seem to offer it but not so much here for some reason.
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: tai haku on March 20, 2011, 12:47:43
Quote from: tai haku on March 20, 2011, 08:56:02

I grew real seeds version last year. It didn't do well for me but then neither did any of my other courgettes so take that as you will.....

Most american seed companies seem to offer it but not so much here for some reason.

I forgot: plants of distinction do it over here too:
http://www.plantsofdistinction.co.uk/acatalog/A-Z_of_Vegetables_SQUASH.html
Title: Re: Yellow Crookneck
Post by: 1066 on March 20, 2011, 18:53:24
Interesting, as I didn't have a bumper crop of courgettes last year either, which looking at it from 1 angle means we weren't inundated but a few more would have been better!
I always forget plants of distinction, they have some lovely stuff ......