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Title: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 30, 2011, 15:26:31
Does any of you remember a 'cucumber' seeds that was sold 'few' years ago. The fruit is pale green and skin has sort of 'furry' feeling like peach skin. Plants and the fruit looked more like melon than cucumber. They fruit wasn't as 'watery' as cucumber but had delicous cucumber/melon flavour. The fruit didn't grow large..4-6" long more oblong than round. The skin was spine free and I did used to peel it off. The flesh was very pale green too almost same colour as skin.
I can't remember if it was melon that was sold to be eaten and tasting like cucumber or cucumber that was more like melon ::)
Now that it I all of the sudden remembered that, I really really want to grow it again ::) ;D
If I could just get the name..then it would be easier to buy the seeds again..if it is still around..fingers crossed ???
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Tee Gee on January 30, 2011, 16:13:32
Could it be Pepino by any chance?
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: tonybloke on January 30, 2011, 16:30:30
was it Brian?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: gwynleg on January 30, 2011, 16:32:07
'was it Brian?'

Fantastic Tony - really made me laugh.
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 30, 2011, 16:37:32
Ummm...just googled it..thanks but not its not pepino..
plants are definately climbers..like melons or cucumber not bush like.
And the fruit is similar to chrystal lemon cucumber but with peachy skin.
I've been looking around web..and there seem to be several 'cucumber-melons' about..but none of them have yet looked like the one I grew.
I think it was T&M that sold the seeds..that would be..umm..maybe 10yrs ago :o ::)...uhhh...time fly :-[
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 30, 2011, 16:38:56
....Brian... ::)
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 30, 2011, 16:43:06
Have we got anybody 'in house' who has kept/collected all T&M catalogues for last 15yrs or so ;D ;)
We have people here from all 'walks of life'..now would be time to impress...
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: pumkinlover on January 30, 2011, 17:49:53
Brian the cucumber????

go on enlighten me- why oh why don't I ever get  these things- sheltered life I've led ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 30, 2011, 17:52:37
I think I might have found them myself..but I cannot remember it would ever been sold under that name.... ???
I bet at the time it was just called 'cucumber melon' ::)
He we are... http://www.originaltouch.co.uk/acatalog/Carosello_Melon_x_Cucumber.html (http://www.originaltouch.co.uk/acatalog/Carosello_Melon_x_Cucumber.html)
I remember them being bit lighter green, but who's memory is perfect :-\
Does anybody else remember growing these?
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: cornykev on January 30, 2011, 19:20:08
Brian's the cousin of Colin.     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: tonybloke on January 30, 2011, 20:00:47
Quote from: cornykev on January 30, 2011, 19:20:08
Brian's the cousin of Colin.     ;D ;D ;D
and the sister of Koolasa
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Jayb on January 30, 2011, 21:35:09
I've got Carosello Mezzo Lungo to try this year, 'which is furry' Is it similar to the one you are looking for?
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: marcitos on January 30, 2011, 21:36:37
Was it 'Carosello Tondo Liscio' or Armenian Cucumber. Both Melon x Cucumber Cross?                 
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: chriscross1966 on January 31, 2011, 00:04:27
Quote from: goodlife on January 30, 2011, 16:43:06
Have we got anybody 'in house' who has kept/collected all T&M catalogues for last 15yrs or so ;D ;)
We have people here from all 'walks of life'..now would be time to impress...

There's impressive, and then there's OCD.....
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: saddad on January 31, 2011, 07:57:44
Surely Cuthbert would be the best name for a cucumber... " Don't call me Surely"  ;D
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 31, 2011, 10:15:24
Jayb..I found this page after you mention the name that you are growing and indeed it looks more like I used to grow ;D ::)
http://www.gardenedibles.com/products/cucumber-half-long-from-polignano
I don't know how similar or different it is than Carosello Tondo Liscio, but I ordered those already...maybe we should do some seedsaving from both varieties and put it into distribution and trial which is better? Any interest?
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Alex133 on January 31, 2011, 11:08:29
I grew Crystal Apple from Fothergills in 2001 so the date's right. As I remember it was round and yellowish/green, don't know if it was furry though. (Sorry, nerdy type who keeps records of pretty much everything they've ever grown).
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on January 31, 2011, 13:20:53
I'm sure my melon/cucumber is either Carosello Mezzo Lungo or Tondo Liscio.
Chrystal Apple was just my way of describing the look of the fruit. But now that I've seen some options I'm starting 'lean' towards Jayb's  Tondo..well..we will see..I'm just trying to find where to buy some Tondo now..I'm never satisfied unless I've all options 'covered' ;D
I'm not going start going bonkers over cucumbers now..I'll promise :-X
I wonder if saving seeds from these hybrid fruits is just as straight forward job..like with 'normal' cucumbers?
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Jayb on January 31, 2011, 22:23:50
I'll check how many I have left (already shared some) and may not have enough to share further at the moment. I'll try saving seed later on, as far as I'm aware the variety I'm growing is actually a melon.

I'm not sure if you have a cross but the Tondo Liscio I've seen listed are all 'C. melo L. var. chate', so another melon

I think I may have another similar type somewhere, I'll have a look through in the next day or so.
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: galina on January 31, 2011, 23:02:40
Quote from: Jayb on January 31, 2011, 22:23:50
I'll check how many I have left (already shared some) and may not have enough to share further at the moment. I'll try saving seed later on, as far as I'm aware the variety I'm growing is actually a melon.

I'm not sure if you have a cross but the Tondo Liscio I've seen listed are all 'C. melo L. var. chate', so another melon

I think I may have another similar type somewhere, I'll have a look through in the next day or so.
Not grown these yet, but as you say, they cross with melons.  Here is another one of the same type:  Carosello Barese
http://www.italianseedandtool.com/product/VCE09/Cucumber-Carosello-Barese.html
Seeds of Italy sell another: Melone of Manduria and two more
http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/96
http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/95
http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/97
I am fairly sure that RealSeeds sold a 'carosello' cucumber a few years ago too.
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on February 01, 2011, 11:33:35
How did I miss those from seeds of Italy site ??? ::)
I never came across those although I looked...I suppose they could organize their seeds bit differently and not having same type of seeds scattered under different groups ::)
Anyway...I had very kind pm suggesting site that he found ;)..thank you...
Jayb..if you have spare.. :-* but if you are getting low with your supply..no problems..I've purchased now couple of different sorts to try and see if they are the 'real deal'...and I'll be saving some seeds....In fact once I receive them I shall offer for you some to try ;)
Now that I've been seaching and looking for different name variations of the type of cucumber..it is frightening how many sort there is about ::)
NO!..I'm not going start collecting..NO, NO :-X ::)
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on February 01, 2011, 11:44:26
Looks like I messed up earlier on ::)
http://www.gardenedibles.com/products/cucumber-half-long-from-polignano (http://www.gardenedibles.com/products/cucumber-half-long-from-polignano) that's the one Jay'b should have..and that looks like the one I'm after..
this is one link that Galina put forward..
http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/95 (http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/95)
..although picture is bit different, I asume it is same cumber... ;D
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: marcitos on February 01, 2011, 15:19:29
You could try original touch , sorry don't have the link at hand. Do you grow unusual cucumbers, or any other unusuals? I get some stuff from the States & Germany, if you're interested in the links.
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on February 01, 2011, 17:45:50
Thanks Marcitos..but I've got the link to original stuff ;D
Actually I did spent evening going through sites around the world ::)
And I find Italian Ebay site where I could have ordered some..bit closer to home.
But before comitting myself to buy I thought to check UK site...and yes...some popped up there too ::) I always have to do things long way round.. >:(
No now I've got seed coming from Original stuff, Ebay and Seeds of Italy ;D
If one does go to trouble to find something exact..one as might go all the way and get together good selection to choose from ;D :-X
..no it's not called "starting collecting."..it is e"nsuring the right option" (being greedy)
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Vinlander on February 02, 2011, 23:51:16
I grew a 'carosello' cucumber a few years back and found it tasted the same as a cucumber when unripe (but needed peeling) and when ripe didn't taste a whole lot better than a 'ripe' (ie. nearly inedible) cucumber...

Pretty much a washout as far as I can tell (washout is almost a synonym for 'novelty' these days).

Are they a whole lot better in Italy? or do you really need to grow up with them to enjoy them??

Cheers.
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Jeannine on February 03, 2011, 02:45:54
The one I think of is the Armenian Cucumber, which is actually a melon, much lighter in colour than usual ones. XX Jeannine
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: Dandytown on February 03, 2011, 09:38:00
Just got my original touch catalouge through today and thought I had solved the name but it appears that I am quite late!  ;D

I noticed on the next page (p.25) that Betty has a picture in of some squash.  They do not look like tromba di albenga to me!  Look more like very large  Lunga Piena di Napoli??
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: goodlife on February 03, 2011, 13:44:15
I grew a 'carosello' cucumber a few years back and found it tasted the same as a cucumber when unripe   ;D
MMM.. ;D I like my cumbers still undersize and crunchy ;D..I suppose that's why the ones I grew did appeal so much to me.
The one I think of is the Armenian Cucumber...bought some ! ;D Never grown them before but while I was searching the other sort those court my eye ;D
Where in earth I'm going to put all to grow is a another mystery to follow :-X
But as always things sort them self out..eventually..my 'to grow' list is only under construction and it will chance 'million' time by summer ;D
Title: Re: looking for a name for a cucumber?
Post by: galina on February 04, 2011, 13:10:45
Quote from: galina on January 31, 2011, 23:02:40
I am fairly sure that RealSeeds sold a 'carosello' cucumber a few years ago too.

found it:

it was   CAROSELLO ~'Di Polignano' Cucumber Type