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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: fat larry on January 12, 2005, 10:33:24

Title: cabbages
Post by: fat larry on January 12, 2005, 10:33:24
i planted various cabbages, brussels and sprouting brocoli last autumn.

they have all grown a bit but have all suffered at hands of various pests. do I leave em, try one, or dump em in the compost heap!

I'll try to get some pix this weekend and post em so I can give you more of an idea ... my brussels have no sprouts, my primo is a small version of a primo and my  broccoli is not very big!
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: philcooper on January 12, 2005, 16:13:32
Larry,

I had very limited success wiuth greens until I applied large quantities of FYM to the plot - what state is your soil in?

Phil
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: Mrs Ava on January 13, 2005, 23:18:42
I think I would bin the sprouts if they haven't sprouted by now.  My brocolli plants are smallish, but have lovely big heads growing so maybe they just need a bit more time.  I have a few cabbages left, but they were sowed very late, mid autumn, so I am expecting them to put on some growth as the weather warms to provide me with some spring greens, as a change to the kale, spinach and chard!  ;D  Pictures would be good.
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: john_miller on January 14, 2005, 00:20:27
If you haven't done so you could try 'topping out' the sprout plants. It is probable that, this late in the year, you may end up with some 'blown' clumps of leaves but you would at least have something that tastes of sprouts!
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: fat larry on January 15, 2005, 09:22:45
what is FYM? how do I top out? and how come it will make a change from kale and chard, should they already be in and growing?

oh my! :o
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: growmore on January 15, 2005, 10:54:42
Hi Larry,
            FYM = farmyard manure...
Topping off sprouts means taking the top off the plant..Boiled then a lump of butter added to it I think this is the best tasting part of the sprout plant ..I have seen these sold as winter greens .Jim..

Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: john_miller on January 15, 2005, 11:20:58
Thanks, growmore. Not sure I would eat Brussels Sprouts tops at this time of year though as they may require a lot of cooking to make them digestible! May be harbouring some pests by now too. Topping out is normally done late in autumn and involves taking out the very top of the plant- how much is snapped off depends upon whether you want to eat the harvest (I always take enough off to cook also) or just encourage the sprouts to swell.
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: osprey480 on January 15, 2005, 18:44:52
When I plant my cabages, I always put pelleted chicken manure into the hole then plant and tread well in so that they are nice and firm. Brussels often blow(open) on the stem because they are not firm enough in the ground. I tread all the cabbage family in firmly.
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: Mrs Ava on January 16, 2005, 14:48:30
Kale and chard were planted last spring and have been in the ground all year and I have been taking leaves as  I have needed throughout the year.  Had the sprouts for Chrissy dinner and pickled the red cabbages for boxing day and new year.  My white cabbages failed thanks to catterpillars and aphids so am looking forward to the spring cabbages as a change.
I will resow chard, spinach and kale this spring and as they start to flourish, wrip out the old and bung them on the compost heap.
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: fat larry on January 17, 2005, 15:03:49
I bought some chard the other week cos I saw some at an allotment show last summer (Elder Stubbs in Oxford - very nice if you are in the area) and thought they looked ace, but when can I put them in and how long do they take to grow, I'm very confused (full stop) about how long things take, I'm part of the instant generation and want everything now!
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: Moggle on January 17, 2005, 16:36:08
Larry, I used to cycle past the Elder Stubbs allotments every day  :) They look nice from the road - never been in though. I think it's one of the things that inspired me to get my own lottie.
Title: Re: cabbages
Post by: Mrs Ava on January 18, 2005, 09:57:53
Chard grows pretty quick from a spring sowing - I start mine of in modules.  Give them plenty to drink to start with  and they grow happily away all year, until next spring when you sow your next lot!  Mine are still on the plot, still looking gorgeous and still tasting wonderful, and the bonus, the creepy crawley slimey critters have left them all totally alone!  ;D