Having searched the forum I can see that quite a few members use their urine (or Human Liquid Waste as I've seen it referred to) as a compost activator.
I just wondered about the practicalities of collection without leaving a trail of carpet stains in the bathroom and less than desirable aromas.
So how do you go about your collection? Use a child's potty in the lav pan & pour into a bucket with a lid? Does this lead to stains around the bucket? How often do you empty before it smells?
Any advice from male & female collectors appreciated!
Wee into a jam jar in the shed.
Being a man and having a nice big hedge around my plot and depending on the direction of the wind, I am able to apply the liquid direct, fresh from source.
Ladies, by definition, would not however ever dream of this method. Could you purchase a comode or use a funnel in the shed if you have one? Not sure I would want to bottle at home.
You could always source from neibouring plot holders but thats not desirable either is it?
Sorry, not much help am I? ;D
;D I dont think anyone would want you to save every single drop ;D
as unwashed says,use a jar/bucket in your shed or some other discreet place when youre at your plot/in your garden
'bucket and chuck it ' ;D
thats how they made salt petre for gun powder in the past
Quote from: Dandytown on January 04, 2011, 17:06:20
Being a man and having a nice big hedge around my plot and depending on the direction of the wind, I am able to apply the liquid direct, fresh from source.
Ladies, by definition, would not however ever dream of this method. Could you purchase a comode or use a funnel in the shed if you have one? Not sure I would want to bottle at home.
You could always source from neibouring plot holders but thats not desirable either is it?
Sorry, not much help am I? ;D
My daughter, who is a long distance cyclist rather than a gardener, but is faced with a similar problem of having to pee at the side of the road sometimes, recommends a device called a "SheWee" http://www.shewee.com/newstore/
Uhh...you don't want to leave it any longer than 12 hrs in room temperature or it starts smelling. As a lady 'collector' and having high and thick hedges I don't 'save' any in home..supply is plentiful at situ :-X
Bucket is good invention and sometimes 'watering' straight under the plants is done too ;) Raspberries specially seem to enjoy some extra nitrogen feed....
Little word of advise....always check your gate is shut and nobody is about when letting the air around your bits ;D...I've learned my lesson hard way,, :-X ;D
What an excellent thread!!
We use a plastic measuring jug in the shed at home then put it into a big plastic bottle and take round to the allotment. There is another pot in a shed on the plot. In summer we just go to the shed instead of using the loo, and as we spend most of pur spare time outside it adds up to a good amount. All gets put on to the comfrey and nettle mix. Any spare goes to feed the comfrey. That makes my high nitrogen feed. There is a seperate comfrey only feed for higher potash.
The compost heap is in a far corner so can be used directly with a quick check for neighbours first, and we have taught OH's grandson to wee on the heap!!
As for smells etc well you can rinse out after use if that bothers you.
We survived for centuries before Mr Crapper came along.
Has anyone tried soil in a bucket?
Quote from: manicscousers on January 04, 2011, 17:38:58
'bucket and chuck it ' ;D
Me too when on the lottie.........in the shed though LOL
I either water the plants direct, or go in a bucket, and tip it into a barrel. Ladies, don't do what my wife always seems to do, and squat on a nettle!
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on January 04, 2011, 18:30:57
I either water the plants direct, or go in a bucket, and tip it into a barrel. Ladies, don't do what my wife always seems to do, and squat on a nettle!
No cut the nettles first and put them in with the wee and some comfrey!
;D ;D...oh..that's why we ladies works so hard..nothing gives you better boost than some nettles on your bottie :-X
Been there..done that... ;D ;D..and I'm sure I ain't last time... ;D
When I first told my OH that I wee ed in the dalek bins she had visions of me pointing aim at the dalek and relieving myself, :-[ actually I wee in a plastic beer glass, that looks more like a specimen bottle, this is done in the shed and poured into the dalek, swished out with a drop of butt water and also added, why you would want to save it at home beats me, ??? but it takes all types, happy wee ing. ;) ;D ;D ;D
Kev peeing on it ok. However BUTT water ;D :D ;D
;)
Quote from: Melbourne12 on January 04, 2011, 18:00:38
My daughter, who is a long distance cyclist rather than a gardener, but is faced with a similar problem of having to pee at the side of the road sometimes, recommends a device called a "SheWee" http://www.shewee.com/newstore/
Has anyone looked at the SheWee? It really made me laugh, not just the fact that it was invented by Samantha
Fountain, but that the illustration of a woman using it looks like a man peeing.
I might get one of these, stand by my compost heap and pee direct. :o
Or maybe not.
Do the ante natal clinics still demand the 24 hr urine test? We used to have to hump it back to the hospital in a demi john - and ont he bus - with a lump of cotton wool in the top to stop it spilling.
Quote from: Squash64 on January 04, 2011, 19:03:27
Has anyone looked at the SheWee? It really made me laugh, not just the fact that it was invented by Samantha Fountain, but that the illustration of a woman using it looks like a man peeing.
I've a feeling it was actually the ancient Greeks who invented it!
Quote from: cornykev on January 04, 2011, 18:47:54
actually I wee in a plastic beer glass
Isn't that how Stella is made? :D
Given the way it tastes, it may well be! :P :P :P
I poured libations to a couple of my rhubarb clumps this afternoon.
Whats is that you are drinking pg? :o
I've always used a plastic 4 pint milk just thingy me bob. Get some strange looks walking down road to plot though lol
Its bucket and chuck it for us too
I use the plastic 4 litre milk bottles as well
I always understood that female urine was a no until they reach a certain age due to the hormone estrogen
I swear by this when I go camping or walking http://www.whizproducts.co.uk/en/whiz_freedom.aspx
Found it even better than the sheewee, and I have tried a few of these devices!
I've heard the thing about oestrogen as well, but I take it with a pinch of salt.
Quote from: Dandytown on January 05, 2011, 22:41:04
Whats is that you are drinking pg? :o
Well at the moment a glass of Fern Bay New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc from a 3-litre box from Tesco.
Depending on the amount of the 3-litre box left will result in some collectable HLW!
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on January 06, 2011, 17:46:41
I've heard the thing about oestrogen as well, but I take it with a pinch of salt.
Is that a good idea Robert?
A friend of mine at the plot saves his up and bottles it in fizzy drinks bottles which he carries to the plot in a little rucksack. When it was cold and icey he slipped and his feet shot out from under him and he landed on his back. His fall was broken by the rucksack but a bottle split and the contents spilled! Bet he smelled nice for the rest of the day.. ;D
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on January 06, 2011, 17:46:41
I've heard the thing about oestrogen as well, but I take it with a pinch of salt.
nice on chips!
Great idea to put it in the compost or comfrey, but if you are spraying it about in a butch fashion then you need to consider the salt and nitrogen content. Established plants like plums and blackcurrants love nitrogen and can take quite a bit of salt but the only veg I know that likes both is onions.
For everything else it's better to dilute it first*- unless the weather is diluting it for you by raining cats and dogs.
*At the risk of sounding like Homer Simpson, you can always dilute it before you produce it by drinking lots of beer ;)!
Cheers.
Quote from: Melbourne12 on January 04, 2011, 18:00:38
My daughter, who is a long distance cyclist rather than a gardener, but is faced with a similar problem of having to pee at the side of the road sometimes, recommends a device called a "SheWee" http://www.shewee.com/newstore/
What a great invention- I'd never heard of it. The testimonials for the SheWee were very interesting and made me think how carefree men are with their "design".
I spent a whole summer weeing on one particular clump of rhubarb every time I was on the plot to see whether I could harm it. It was perfectly happy until we had a few dry weeks, when it wilted. The rest of the rhubarb was fine. It bounced back next spring.
bucket and chuck it here too ;D/ shadesx
Another vote for the 2 litre plastic containers that milk often comes in. They come with a plastic screw top that seals reasonably well (but not perfectly)...vital for keeping pongs in and bacteria out.
Can't see the sense using 7 litres of treated water to flush urine down the loo all the time. At the moment it goes with me down the plot and gets poured onto my leafmould pile
this has to be the best thread ever!
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As we don't drink cows milk in our house I think I need to start asking around for 4 pinters especially if we get a water meter ;) ;D.
Seriously though is it ok to put lots of it on the composter. We have 2 1sq mtr ones at the plot & a hexaganal one at home.
Seriously..yes..it is brilliant stuff..and it is free ;D For start with it is excellent as nitrogen feed..just don't use it for watering lettuce :-X
..and as compost activator too...but with you having fresh chicken poo anyway you should not need your compost bin activating ;)
If you feel 'funny' about using it for crops..maybe just for fruit bushes and other perennials.
I seem to recall reading from somewhere ...that one person can provide enough nitrogen (in wee) in a year to feed crops within quarter of and acre area...or something along those lines..I'll have dig out that study and read it again ::)
Uhh...I found it already..my previous answer wasn't quite right for what I remembered..so here we go..
This is bit from Cultivating our Garden by Jon Jeavons and it about growing biointesive method...
"each person's urine and manure contain approximately enough nutrients to produce enough food to feed that person. However, those nutrients are not enough when they are spread thinly over the one-half to one acre that it takes mechanized commercial agriculture to produce that person's food"
So....world would be much better and 'healthier' place if all start weeing around plot :o :-X ;D ;)
Have you got comfrey patch, you can feed it to the comfrey and add to the leaves when they are soaking as well as water.
Even if you just put it on the compost heap I doubt you would do any damage.
Well I wish I had read the Guardian gardening myth thread before I posted that one!! :-[ :-[ :-[
After a few pees it starts soaking through the bottom. Better to get a barrel, put the surplus in that, and use it diluted as liquid manure.
At the point of passing, Human urine is sterile and wont do harm (with the possible exception of some one with an infection)
It has kept people alive by drinking it and many a student has drunk it for a bet.
Yes it has been well known for years as a compost activator.
The old farmers used to collect it for soaking the sheep's fleeces in.
Before that the Romans used it in their laundry as a grease remover.
It takes the sting out of a few insect and sea creature bites and the itch out of chilblains.
It is great stuff really and we just flush it away.
You know those spots of grease on clothes which remain after washing, guess what will remove them.
Ahh...but for washing purposes it have to be 'brewed' for while so that there is some ammonia present...
And well matured wee was used to bleach fleeces wool ;)
It used to be used for tanning leather as well. Tanners in Roman times put urinals in the walls of their workshops, and paid for the contents of people's pisspots. When Vespasian put a tax on the urinals after a mega financial crisis, his son Titus supposedly complained about it. Vespasian produced an aureus (gold coin) with the words, 'Money doesn't smell.'
I think it's also a mordant.