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Title: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: vjm63 on September 30, 2010, 08:37:13
I grew this from some seed given to me earlier this year from someone on A4A - generous person! Now I have got quite a lot - is there anyone else interested in growing it?

Nothing needed in return - I'd just want an sae, please.

PM me if you are interested.

Thanks.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Ellen K on September 30, 2010, 08:43:46
oooo ... I would love to grow these, don't need many seeds, just enough for maybe 10 plants.  Off to explore the site mail function.  Thank you very much.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: DawnF on September 30, 2010, 22:45:39
Hi,
I would love to try these too.
Can I possibly have 10 beans so I can plant 2 rows?

Thank you in advance

DawnF
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Tin Shed on September 30, 2010, 22:56:19
I would love to try them as well - will send you a pm.

Thank you very much
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Ellen K on October 11, 2010, 15:42:11
The beans are here, thank you very much.

Can't wait for next year to give them a go.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on October 25, 2010, 23:18:23
A great bean... I have plenty if anyone else is interested. Just taken in the last and shelled out for casseroles...  lots properly dried and saved though...  :)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on October 26, 2010, 00:33:21
Would love to try these if you still have a few to spare Saddad, please.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on October 26, 2010, 07:51:32
Just pm me a postal addy Sinbad  :)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Nigel B on October 26, 2010, 09:48:09
Oh yes please.

May I?


Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on October 26, 2010, 13:06:10
Naturally... part of the work of the HSL is to get the heritage varieties out there and growing...  :)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: I love digging on October 26, 2010, 13:37:01
Ooh, could I try some, do you think?  Please.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on October 26, 2010, 15:55:31
Many thanks Saddad, will go and do it right now.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on October 27, 2010, 00:51:49
OK you three they are bagged up (30+) each and in addressed envelopes... just need to check "stamps" so should be ijn the post "today"  ;D
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Nigel B on October 28, 2010, 11:55:36
Wey-Hey.  8)

A slightly battered envelope arrived, containing perfectly all-right seeds. 

Many thanks Saddad. It's refreshing to see the spirit of allotmenteering alive and well here.....  ;D

Nigel.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: I love digging on October 28, 2010, 17:59:18
Mine arrived today too.  Thanks Saddad.  My daughter wants to know if I'm going to trade my for a cow (a la Jack and the Beanstalk)!
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on October 28, 2010, 19:20:02
Nothing here but I have high hopes for tomorrow.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on October 28, 2010, 23:41:50
Quote from: I love digging on October 28, 2010, 17:59:18
Mine arrived today too.  Thanks Saddad.  My daughter wants to know if I'm going to trade my for a cow (a la Jack and the Beanstalk)!
No she needs "Ryder's Top of the Pole" for that... have those too! Need 10' poles really!  :)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on October 28, 2010, 23:59:24
I thought this was very moving when I read it and look forward even more to growing them.

In 1839 the US government forced most of the people of the Cherokee nation to walk west from Georgia, North Carolina, northeastern Alabama, and Tennessee to what is now Oklahoma. The distance traveled by most of the people was about 1,000 miles, with the vast majority of the travelers making the entire journey by foot. The forced march, now called the Trail of Tears, began in October of 1839. Cherokee people walked the thousand miles over the course of a harsh winter. The walk began after many had already been held for months in internment camps, where conditions were degrading, violent, and cruel. By the time the removal was over, roughly one-third of the men, women, and children had died.

When the time of internment and removal began, many Cherokee people were forced to pack quickly. People took only what they could carry, often having to decide in a hurry what was most important to them that could be taken on the journey to an unknown new home. Some people carried seeds.

The seeds of dry black beans now called the Cherokee Trail of Tears Black Bean were grown in the mountains of Western North Carolina for thousands of years. Someone carried them on the Trail of Tears. A Cherokee man in Oklahoma donated seeds from this bean variety to the Seed Savers Exchange and so we are able to bring a
few back to the mountains to plant in our river valley, where Cherokee people and their ancestors lived for thousands of years before the arrival of Europeans.

How do we retrace the steps of these ancestors and recover the intimacy with the natural world that was at the core of their systems of living? By planting a bean, covering it with dirt, giving it water and sun. By encouraging all of the life in the soil and air and water that nurtures the seed: worms, beneficial insects, microscopic life forms. By cultivating intimate relationships with the plants that feed us and the earth, air, water, and light that feed them. By preserving the seeds that sustain human life for another generation
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on October 31, 2010, 22:16:31
I still have high hopes that they will come tomorrow, hope they haven't gone astray.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on October 31, 2010, 22:25:29
If they do I still have plenty...  ;D
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on October 31, 2010, 22:33:48
Just went to check that I had sent you my address, with no misspellings but can't find it there is nothing in my outbox :o.

I'll have to ask my neighbours as my mail often goes astray.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: bridgehouse on November 01, 2010, 08:37:03


I would love to try these Saddad ,but I am not very good on the computer how do I go about sending you a s.a.e.
Thank you for offering them, I hope I am lucky.
   June.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on November 02, 2010, 18:44:24
Luckycharlie.... yours are in the envelope... might sneak out to the main tonight (it's near a good pub....)  ;D
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: grannyjanny on November 02, 2010, 19:15:12
Saddad you bad boy ;) ;D. Enjoy. Hope OH is doing OK.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on November 02, 2010, 23:09:52
We are both doing OK thanks... didn't get to the "main" but did get to another good pub... and post box...  ;D
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: brownowl23 on November 03, 2010, 08:56:36
saddad - Could I possibly trouble you for a few Ryders top o the pole. I do love beans and trying new varietys.

Vjm63 - thank you for my cherokee trail of tears. Oh I am so longing for my bean heaven next year. ;)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on November 03, 2010, 17:27:13
You'll need to pm me an addy...  :)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on November 04, 2010, 19:20:22
Many thanks Saddad, I received them today.  Can't wait now to get them sown.

They hadn't gone astray they were sitting in the sorting office waiting for me to pay extra postage on them.  I saw your 1st class stamp on the envelope and asked why.................wait for it..................they said it was too thick.  I really didn't mind paying but thought it a bit strong to be charged and extra £1.10 when it would easily have gone through the letter box.

But, it takes nothing away from the pleasure of having the seeds.  Thank you.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on November 04, 2010, 19:25:07
Amazingly the other packets all got through on a normal stamp..
If you give them a shake flat they go through the 5mm slot...
Don't leave them in the money bag though...  :)
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Sinbad7 on November 04, 2010, 20:06:16
Oh I did and would have done until they needed sowing.  Will go and take them out right now.

I would have thought they were fine too, I think even the guy at the sorting office thought it a bit much.
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: saddad on November 11, 2010, 15:45:20
BrownOwl and Bridgehouse... they are in the post. Don't let them "charge" you extra postage...  :-X
Title: Re: cherokee trail of tears - anyone want a few?
Post by: Nigel B on September 10, 2011, 21:47:55


Just wanted to thank Saddad again for the Cherokee seeds.
I split the beans between myself and a neighbour and we now both have an excess of beans for local distribution to some more, and less,  experienced growers, with enough kept back to plant rather more ourselves next year so we can help 'take the strain' by making them more easily available.

Thanks again! :)