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Title: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 11, 2010, 05:45:59
I know this is a silly question, but is a cake containing eggs, but no margarine, classed as 'dairy-free'?

Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Jayb on August 11, 2010, 07:05:52
Yes, although some people can be intolerant to eggs also. Dairy free = no butter, milk, yogurt, cream, cheese etc
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 11, 2010, 07:13:57
Quote from: Jayb on August 11, 2010, 07:05:52
Yes, although some people can be intolerant to eggs also. Dairy free = no butter, milk, yogurt, cream, cheese etc

Thanks Jayb.
I was thinking of making carrot cake for the Summer fayre on Saturday as someone was asking last year if there were any dairy-free cakes.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Jayb on August 11, 2010, 07:59:50
Mmm, Carrot cake, scrummy  ;D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: manicscousers on August 11, 2010, 09:57:55
I use 'pure' for my cakes,that's dairy free and brill for cooking  :)
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 11, 2010, 13:01:32
Quote from: manicscousers on August 11, 2010, 09:57:55
I use 'pure' for my cakes,that's dairy free and brill for cooking  :)

Thanks Manics, I'll give that a try too.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Magnolia on August 11, 2010, 13:58:03
Hmmm interesting one.  I had always assumed dairy free was egg free.  After searching a few dairy free receipes it appears not.  Worth checking with the people asking for the cakes whether they mean vegan cakes rather than dairy free.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: grannyjanny on August 11, 2010, 19:10:32
Squash I made a dairy free mincemeat cake with pure last year & took it to Saddads open day as he is dairy free. Went down well & a very easy recipe if you would like it.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 11, 2010, 19:26:21
Quote from: grannyjanny on August 11, 2010, 19:10:32
Squash I made a dairy free mincemeat cake with pure last year & took it to Saddads open day as he is dairy free. Went down well & a very easy recipe if you would like it.

Yes please  :)
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: carolinej on August 11, 2010, 19:38:56
My son is vegan, so I always make dairy free, including no eggs.

In most  recipes, I just add soya milk instead of eggs. Not as light, but it means I can bake cakes/muffins/pancakes for him. I usually also add an extra pinch of baking powder, just for luck.

c x
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: grannyjanny on August 11, 2010, 20:07:29
PM you Squash :).
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Emagggie on August 11, 2010, 20:31:03
Eggs are from chickens, milk products from the cow and other ruminants (dairy). Easy way to remember it squash. ;D I speak as a lactose intollerant person though, not a vegan. ;D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: grannyjanny on August 11, 2010, 21:28:44
Same here Emaggie & gluten ::).
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Emagggie on August 11, 2010, 23:32:14
That's bad luck Gjanny. May I have the recipe too, please?
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: grannyjanny on August 12, 2010, 08:22:29
PM you Emaggie
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 12, 2010, 09:07:07
Quote from: Emagggie on August 11, 2010, 20:31:03
Eggs are from chickens, milk products from the cow and other ruminants (dairy). Easy way to remember it squash. ;D I speak as a lactose intollerant person though, not a vegan. ;D

Thanks Emaggie, I think I was confusing dairy-free with vegan. ::)
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Emagggie on August 12, 2010, 09:18:32
I imagine being a vegan to be very difficult to cater for. One would have to be very inventive-especially if you had a nut allergy too. :-\
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: grannyjanny on August 12, 2010, 09:20:16
Plus the clothes issue.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 12, 2010, 09:22:38
I am vegetarian which is fine here in England.  The problems start when we go to Sicily because many people there think we are crazy for not eating meat.  I can't imagine how difficult it would be if we were vegan.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: PurpleHeather on August 14, 2010, 22:11:25
Dairy is milk..cream...butter....cheese

A lot of manufacturers disguise dairy with words like whey, calcium casenate, lactose.

Vitalite and Tomor are certainly dairy free as is carnation coffee mate.

For people who can not take any milk you can actually use either lard or hard white fat which is pure vegetable oil.

Vegans, vegetarians and those on religious diets wont physically come to any harm if their food is tainted. It is just a matter of respecting their wishes but some people can get very ill if they have a medical condition and even something which is cooked in an area where the substance they are alleric to has been prepared, the dust, can cause serious health problems for them.

Just using the same knife to spread butter then use it to spread their margarine could transmit to them something which could make them ill and a lot of people with allergies wont dare share your food and may ask if they can bring their own. Or even pretend they are not hungry even though they are.

Please do not take offence if they refuse what you have made for them. It could be better to get a packet of something from the supermarket which is marked as 'Free From' and offer them the packet unopened to eat.

Most healthy people have no idea how painful (even life threatening) the situation can be if sufferers of certain allergies consume even a miniscule amount of contaminated food. In fact some people are so ignorant of the facts, they are rude and make the sufferer feel as though they are being awkward.

Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Emagggie on August 14, 2010, 22:34:28
A friend who is allergic to any part of an egg once ate pastry which had been brushed with milk with a brush that had been used with egg. The poor woman was ill for the best part of a week. :o
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 15, 2010, 05:14:13
I'm glad I made some dairy-free cakes because the ladies who ran the cake stall told me that they were  very popular and sold quickly.  They said that next year they will make some which are suitable for diabetics too.

Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: goodlife on August 15, 2010, 08:41:02
next year they will make some which are suitable for diabetics too.
Hmmm..I wonder what sort of they will be?..as a diabetic....we do not need any special recipes as such...generally any so call 'diabetic foods'(in shops) are regarded as no-no..they are not any healthier and any 'harmfull' incredients are just replaced with double amount something else which is not any better really..there is still so much false understanding with diabetic diet..
...generally diabetics need just healthy diet..nothing is banned..just avoiding great extremes...low(ish) fat & sugar, high fibre,,nothing unusual about it.
So if any of you have friends with diabetes....please...do not fall the trap in buying any special diabetic stuff...
In fact few years back Boots had to take some diabetic treats off from shelfs as they were so unhealthy...yes they were lower with sugar but the fat content was sky high ::)....I got that issue off from my 'chest' now.. ;D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: betula on August 15, 2010, 09:51:15
As a Diabetic I so agree with you.

Diabetic chocs can put you on the toilet for a couple of days unles you eat it in vey small portions.

I have friends who insist on buying me this stuff and I have not the heart to tell them.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Emagggie on August 15, 2010, 11:34:03
My husband is diabetic too, he eats most everything and doesn't feel the need to tell people. In fact if he does, he sometimes ends up with no pud at all! We remember those awful chocs Betula :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: longalot on August 15, 2010, 12:20:06
i have friend who is deadly allergic to dairy but not to meat. Any none homemade
baked good can be deadly. besides lactose, whey protein is another common allergy from milk.
   
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: 1066 on August 15, 2010, 16:14:36
Hi Squash, its a bit late I know but I ran a thread on dairy free last year and got some great ideas for cakes and puddings, might be useful for next year  ;)

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,56321.0.html

1066  :)
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 15, 2010, 17:58:40
Quote from: 1066 on August 15, 2010, 16:14:36
Hi Squash, its a bit late I know but I ran a thread on dairy free last year and got some great ideas for cakes and puddings, might be useful for next year  ;)

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,56321.0.html

1066  :)

Thank you so much 10, that is really helpful.  I'll save it to my favourites because there are lots of ideas there.

Next year I am going to make only dairy-free cakes, except for the chocolate one with a fudge topping which is made with evaporated milk.  Unless there is an evaporated milk substitute?  Mad question, but is chocolate DF?  There is a list of ingredients but it's so small I can't read it.
The ones I made with Pure margarine tasted exactly the same as the Stork ones so I might as well make only DF in future.

Thanks again,  :)
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: grannyjanny on August 15, 2010, 18:19:46
Squash Green & Blacks really dark 73% +? used to be dairy free because autistic children could have it. I looked at the ingredients recently & I think it said may contain dairy so I gave it a miss. I used to love a bit occasionally. How did the calorie free chocolate cake do ;) ;D?
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: PurpleHeather on August 15, 2010, 18:30:19
A substitute for evaporated milk can be made by adding carnation coffee mate to some soya milk. It may not work for your recipe, I used to make it as a pouring cream for my lactose intolerant child in the days before all the stuff we have now was available.

How about coconut cream? (it is sold in small tins for Thai Curries) Also in blocks which can be let down with warm water, you just use less water. It is just coconut and is totally dairy free.

I rather think coconut cream with the chocolate could prove to be rather nice if you are a bounty bar lover.

Doves flour has a cake recipe which is gluten, dairy free and eggless.

5 oz sugar
6 tablespoons of sunflour oil
1 tablespoon vanilla extract (seems a lot that)
half a ripe banana peeled and mashed
6oz gluten free Self raising flour
4 tablespoons water

one 7inch cake tin

Beat the sugar oil and vanilla together  beat in the banana then the flour and water... pour into the lined and oiled cake tin Bake for 35 mins

190 C degrees ordinary Oven (170 C degrees fan) that is 375F/ Gas number 5

I suppose the banana must have some quality that replaces the egg. I have not tried the cake, I detest bananas but even if it does not work too well, it could probably still be made into a trifle.


I know the gluten free yorkshire pudding recipe has to beaten for ages to get plenty of air into it and cooked at once, no resting, so my instinct with the eggless cake is that the batter will neet a good seeing to with an electric whisk.



Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: 1066 on August 16, 2010, 08:01:27
Squash, yes you can get chocolate without dairy. And along with many other things the quality has improved enormously over the years! I recently had choc truffles - oh they were good!!

I'll double check a couple of companies out for you. I'm not sure about Green and Blacks anymore - Cadburys bought them out, who of course were bought out themselves!! I have a shop round the corner from me that has several kinds in so I'll check later

Quote from: PurpleHeather on August 15, 2010, 18:30:19
A substitute for evaporated milk can be made by adding carnation coffee mate to some soya milk. It may not work for your recipe,
Now that's worth a try

Oh and I've been abbreviated  8)
Quote from: Squash64 on August 15, 2010, 17:58:40
Thank you so much 10,

1066  :D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 16, 2010, 08:20:50
Quote from: grannyjanny on August 15, 2010, 18:19:46
Squash Green & Blacks really dark 73% +? used to be dairy free because autistic children could have it. I looked at the ingredients recently & I think it said may contain dairy so I gave it a miss. I used to love a bit occasionally. How did the calorie free chocolate cake do ;) ;D?

If only..........  ;)
I think it was ok, I didn't eat any myself but someone came back for a second helping so it can't have been too bad.

I'll check out Green & Blacks when I go shopping, thanks for that.
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 16, 2010, 08:22:30
Quote from: PurpleHeather on August 15, 2010, 18:30:19
A substitute for evaporated milk can be made by adding carnation coffee mate to some soya milk. It may not work for your recipe, I used to make it as a pouring cream for my lactose intolerant child in the days before all the stuff we have now was available.

How about coconut cream? (it is sold in small tins for Thai Curries) Also in blocks which can be let down with warm water, you just use less water. It is just coconut and is totally dairy free.

I rather think coconut cream with the chocolate could prove to be rather nice if you are a bounty bar lover.

Doves flour has a cake recipe which is gluten, dairy free and eggless.

5 oz sugar
6 tablespoons of sunflour oil
1 tablespoon vanilla extract (seems a lot that)
half a ripe banana peeled and mashed
6oz gluten free Self raising flour
4 tablespoons water

one 7inch cake tin

Beat the sugar oil and vanilla together  beat in the banana then the flour and water... pour into the lined and oiled cake tin Bake for 35 mins

190 C degrees ordinary Oven (170 C degrees fan) that is 375F/ Gas number 5

I suppose the banana must have some quality that replaces the egg. I have not tried the cake, I detest bananas but even if it does not work too well, it could probably still be made into a trifle.


I know the gluten free yorkshire pudding recipe has to beaten for ages to get plenty of air into it and cooked at once, no resting, so my instinct with the eggless cake is that the batter will neet a good seeing to with an electric whisk.





Thanks for all that, it's very helpful.

I love the thought of coconut cream and chocolate so I will definitely try that. :)
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Squash64 on August 16, 2010, 08:24:46
Quote from: 1066 on August 16, 2010, 08:01:27
Oh and I've been abbreviated  8)
Quote from: Squash64 on August 15, 2010, 17:58:40
Thank you so much 10,
1066  :D

I know, I couldn't help it - I always think of you as Ten Sixty-Six with Ten as your first name.   :D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: Jeannine on August 16, 2010, 09:06:39
I have been calling him Hastings lately ;D
Title: Re: Cake with eggs - is it dairy-free?
Post by: 1066 on August 16, 2010, 13:34:21
love it squash - never thought of it like that

and now to Jeannine -
Quote from: Jeannine on August 16, 2010, 09:06:39
him

:o  :o  :o   :o   :o   :o  :o  :o  :o  :o   :o  :o

well not when I last looked  :D