I have never grown sugar snap peas, so I have no idea how to support them or in what fashion, the wife got them and wants me to shove em in the ground, can anyone tell me how I need to do this, do I plant them on teepees or plant in a double row with a net between them, does anyone know how tall they get !.
Funny enough I think that may be one reason why people do not grow things, they have no idea what support to give things or what size to expect, when you are looking for diagrams of support I never find them.... it can be a little daunting I think.
Thanks
Spud.
I grow mine up pea netting and expect them to make 2 m high.
Thank you Realfood. I think I will sow in two staggered rows as the pack says and try to put a set of poles across them with a single pea net dropped down between them. What do you think ?.
I used to sow 4 - 5 short rows and put canes in all four corners and one in the middle. Then I strung up the canes. Worked okay for me.
I grow snow peas which are similar to the Oregon, up a piece of chicken wire about 5 ft high threaded onto canes, then canes pushed into the ground.
Not sure what you have, do you have the name exactly right??
Oregon Giant..snow pea doesn't need support
Oregon Giant Sugar Pod ..multi purpose snap/snow pea grow to 30 inches
Oregon Sugar Pod ..snow pea grows to 28 inches
Oregon Sugar Pod 2 ..snow pea grows to 28 inches
Sugar Snap Pea (no Oregon in the name) .. snap pea grows to 6 feet
Super Snap Pea ( no Oregon in it's name) ..snap pea grows to 5 feet
UK descriptions on seed packets eg snaps, sugar, snow , and Oregon often get mixed up with these peas and there is a big difference in height.
Oregon named ones are from James Baggart, Oregon uni, never did do an Oregon Sugar Snap to the best of my knowledge.
XX Jeannine
Oregon Sugar Pods are Mangetout, not Sugar Snaps. Mangetout are the flat pea pods, whereas sugar snaps are more cylindrical (think mini french bean).
I started some off in pots (Mangetout) about end of March I think, and picked my first ones yesterday, the earlier ones don't tend to get maggots in (Alan Titchmarsh reckons mangetout don't get maggots - untrue!! - hold every pod up to the light before you use it, you will soon see the infected ones).
You made me get my packet out to check the variety, and see I can still sow until mid-June....will pot up another 24+ I think, they are great for freezing. Thanks, as I have gained a bit more garden that I can make use of.
Sally, you are right mangetout is the name used in the UK for snow peas but I have seen it on seed packets that are snaps too which is why I said the UK seed packets confuse people.
To clarify for anyone else reading this
Snow pea is the US term used for the flat ones that you eat all the pod and has undeveloped peas inside,very very tiny.They are flat because there is nothing much inside them.
Snap pea is US the term used for for the full ones that you eat all the pod but does have developed seeds in it.They are cylindrical like normal peas because they do have peas in side them.
Oregon Giant Sugar Pod is a seed that can be harvested either way as a snow pea or grown on longer and harvested as a snap pea.
Ypu can actually pod snap peas of you wish but the yeild is small as the peas are smaller than regular peas..more like a petit pois.
It does get very confusing when a US veggie crosses the pond and it is renamed.
XX Jeannine
I'm not sure who's done the renaming since mangetout have been around since the 16th Century at least, possibly having originated in Holland.
I'm not sure where sugar snaps originated. The genetics of mangetout are a little complex with two recessive genes being involved, and the old ones seem to have remained genetically distinct from 'ordinary' peas, suggesting that nobody was crossing them. I'm pretty sure sugar snaps originated sometime aroungd the late 19th or early 20th Century, when Mendelian genetics made it possible to understand what was happening. I haven't yet discovered which side of the Atlantic this took place!
No I don't know either.
I do know that the Sugar Snap variety was introduced in '79, the Oregon named ones come via Oregon Uni and Mange Tout means " eat all " in French so maybe the US growers split it into two types when the full podded ones came along,ie snow/sugar and snap and the Europeans didn't. I do think the US description is easier in this case though.
When I see Mangetout type on a seed packet and it doesn't tell which type I find it very confusing.
XX Jeannine
I have a number of different types and I never seem to know quite how big they will get. Seems to even vary from year to year with the same packet of seeds. I give mine hazel branches about a metre high and if they go out the top they get some bigger ones.
The packets do not always have the right info. One of my plot neighbours grew sugar snap last year and put up 2 metre netting. All but two of the plants were 1 metre. I saved seeds (with permission from compost bin) from the two metre ones and they are now two metres.
The list I posted is from the uni list in the US and is accurate for the ones I mentioned. XX Jeannine
Superspud - I'm growing these, my OH wanted them, mine came from Thompson & Morgan. I've put them up a small wigwam as I had space left over there, it's not very high, and it's a wait and see thing at the moment
My packet says they are Mangetout - Pisum sativum - Orgeon Sugar Pod. Not sure if that helps or hinders :-\ :)
1066