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Title: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Squash64 on May 24, 2010, 21:02:45
I would like people's opinions on this please:-

We provide tea/coffee/cold drinks/toast to our plotholders at a low charge (25p drinks, 20p toast) the proceeds of which go to our designated charity.
Sunday mornings are always the busiest and we usually take about £10 -£12.

One of our plotholders asked if he could have a memorial 'do' for his son who died suddenly.  He said he would pay for all the food and drinks.  This took place yesterday morning, with another plotholder preparing the food and drink, paid for by the father.

I was expecting that they would calculate roughly how many teas and coffees they made and leave the money for them.  As it turned out, they brought their own tea, coffee and milk and didn't leave any money at all.  Some people even had our cold drinks from the fridge and didn't pay for them.

Am I being unreasonable?  I'm feeling a bit annoyed because there were so many people there as it was such a nice day, and we didn't make a penny.

Opinions would be welcomed, thanks.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Sparkly on May 24, 2010, 21:06:54
I would say that it wasn't really fair, but as a one off I wouldn't say anything. Especially in light of the situation.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: kt. on May 24, 2010, 21:12:11
Either let him know you are short and could he make the difference.  Or take it on the chin with a lesson learnt not to do it again.  Once bitten twice shy and all that.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: PurpleHeather on May 24, 2010, 21:16:20
No, you are not being unreasonable at all.

People who have been berieved or find that they have a 'cause' FEEL that that they have to make some sort of donation after a loved one has died or diagnosed and frankly they come up with all sorts of silly ideas like a sponsored dog walk, just to quench their personal thirst to repay or contribute..

Stealing from one good cause to repay another is fair game to them and frankly. You have to be hard here.

Charity is all well and good. The people raising funds will often try to play on the guilt factor and will tread on your toes to appease their own cause.

Fund raising is a difficult area.

You have to learn to say "NO. We raise a small amount for our cause and whilst yours is very worth while, we can not afford to give you our profits to fund yours." We will be only too pleased to give you space to advertise your own fund raising efforts".

Once bitten twice shy..........As the saying goes.



Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Flighty on May 24, 2010, 21:18:59
I would be annoyed but under the circumstances I wouldn't do or say anything. Learn from it and if there's a next time then agree on things beforehand to hopefully avoid any such problems.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Duke Ellington on May 24, 2010, 21:23:33
I couldn't have put it better Flighty!!!
Quote from: Flighty on May 24, 2010, 21:18:59
I would be annoyed but under the circumstances I wouldn't do or say anything. Learn from it and if there's a next time then agree on things beforehand to hopefully avoid any such problems.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: gwynnethmary on May 24, 2010, 21:26:05
I'm with Flighty too!
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Borlotti on May 24, 2010, 21:26:48
Well said Flighty.  ;D ;D I agree too, not worth the aggro.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Unwashed on May 24, 2010, 21:33:05
They took a bit of a liberty Betty, you're right to feel put out.  I guess Flighty's right, though I don't see that it would necessarily cause offence to tot-up what you think you're short and let the person know as they might be happy to repy what will only be a few quid.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Squash64 on May 24, 2010, 22:16:24
Thanks everyone for your replies.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was wrong.

I'm going to take the Flighty path (sorry, lol) and if there is another time, discuss it first.

Off to bed now, I've been up since 5, walked the dogs at 6.30 and at the allotment from 7.30 till 2 and I'm slightly shattered.

Thanks again,
Betty
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: redimp on May 24, 2010, 23:09:47
Quote from: Unwashed on May 24, 2010, 21:33:05
They took a bit of a liberty Betty, you're right to feel put out.  I guess Flighty's right, though I don't see that it would necessarily cause offence to tot-up what you think you're short and let the person know as they might be happy to repy what will only be a few quid.
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Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Unwashed on May 25, 2010, 08:08:16
You've lost me Redclanger?
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: Squash64 on May 25, 2010, 08:36:03
Quote from: Unwashed on May 25, 2010, 08:08:16
You've lost me Redclanger?

Me too!
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: :( on May 25, 2010, 09:18:11
Its a Catherine Tate character, Nan Taylor whos a foulmouthed stingy old bat and one of her sayings is its a f###ing liberty. Dont shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: redimp on May 25, 2010, 19:11:19
Quote from: Unwashed on May 25, 2010, 08:08:16
You've lost me Redclanger?
Ah - it was just  a bit of jest because you said they were taking liberties.  Nan just popped into my head and I was feeling mischievous.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: cornykev on May 25, 2010, 20:25:48
Well I liked it RC, Betty I'd be a bit pissed off, but I think you'll have to put this one down to experience.  :(       ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: antipodes on May 26, 2010, 09:10:01
I guess that when he said he would pay for drinks, he just meant that he would provide them. I don't really see what he has done wrong  ??? or is it just me? I would say that he just wanted to have a bit of moral support, perhaps to thank everyone for being supportive, and that making money for the charity, on this occasion, was far from his mind.
still, at least you know that if there is a repeat experience, state clearly what your terms are.
Title: Re: opinions welcomed - 'free' refreshments
Post by: detailista on May 26, 2010, 09:16:57
I would invoice for the cold drinks taken from the fridge, just in the way of a hand written note. 

If he'd had a memorial do elsewhere he would have been looking at roomhire and drinks so he's saved plenty already.

I agree some tact is needed in the handling but if he said upfront he'd pay for the drinks it's not unreasonable to ask.

good luck.