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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: springbok on May 16, 2010, 19:19:19

Title: Horses tail
Post by: springbok on May 16, 2010, 19:19:19
HELP :(  My whole garden is springing up with them everywhere, including my vegetable garden.
How do I get rid of them, as they are not easy to pull up!!.

Any suggestions?  x
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: betula on May 16, 2010, 20:00:55
Quite simple......you will not win with

this baby.

Just keep doing the best you can  :(
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: pigeonseed on May 16, 2010, 20:16:09
QuoteQuite simple......you will not win with this baby.
;D ;D

Yes it's been around since before the dinosaurs, so perhaps we're quite insignificant to it!

My neighbour at the allotment is outraged by it and bathes it in weedkiller, and it's still all over. So I just pull it up when I see it, in the hope it will keep it under control. What can you do?  ::)


Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: ipt8 on May 16, 2010, 22:05:05
Sorry to hear that you have this weed. I have yet to hear of anyone getting rid of it.  >:(

Try bruising, crushing it and treating with a stump treatment strength application of Roundup (Glysophate). That is usually 20% Roundup mixed with water.

My daughter eventually used raised beds lined to try and keep it out.
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: kt. on May 17, 2010, 10:00:12
Its a never ending task to keep on top of it.  Probably increases the workload on my plot by 25% if not more.  Anybody who can develop something to kill it off would be a millionaire over night.  (That would probably be a quicker task ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: OllieC on May 17, 2010, 11:10:04
There is a weedkiller for it but it's for commercial use & requires something like 1 year until you can use the ground again. Nice stuff! We just live with it, pulling out what we can when we can... Doesn't seem to do much harm.
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: grawrc on May 17, 2010, 11:31:28
It has a protective coating which means it does not absorb weedkiller unless you break the surface as ipt8 suggests. It can then be killed by weedkiller but it does take a long time and several applications. The roots go down forever. You have to be persistent and very determined. It's one of the great survivors.
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 17, 2010, 18:00:02
It survived the Great Permian Extinction and the extinction of the dinosaurs. That's two of the greatest environmental disasters in the Earth's history. What makes you think it's going to blink at the odd bit of weedkiller?
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: sazhig on May 17, 2010, 20:02:07
Garden Organic have some info on it here:
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/organicweeds/weed_information/weed.php?id=10 (http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/organicweeds/weed_information/weed.php?id=10)

They also have a factsheet on it which you can buy or have free access to here if you are a member:
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/wc1.php (http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/factsheets/wc1.php)
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: gaz2000 on May 17, 2010, 20:10:11
i have mares tail but not much of it now,compared to other plots atleast

i dont use a rotavator so get to see whats in the soil,and i can spot mares tail roots very easy so remove any strand i find

its a green honeycomb structure inside the black root,and even if i find a piece that is dry and not active i remove as it can re-shoot very easy.

i still get it on my paths,even a few strands on the plot,but by removing the roots each year i have half won the battle

Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: cornykev on May 17, 2010, 20:12:07
As others have said pull it as you go, if its kept under control marestail doesn't bother my plants, but then if the plots covered with it that may be a different matter.  :'(     :-\       ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: Tee Gee on May 17, 2010, 20:16:25
I found regular hoeing eventually* gets rid of the problem.

* can equal many years.

There is another bit of info here;

http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Data/Mares%20tail/Mares%20tail.htm (http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Data/Mares%20tail/Mares%20tail.htm)
Title: Re: Horses tail
Post by: ipt8 on May 25, 2010, 21:03:38
Just to look on the bright side it is rumoured that miners often found the roots down mines so you kind of get the idea how deep its roots go......