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Title: Premature toms?
Post by: caroline7758 on April 30, 2010, 18:52:07
My tomato plants,sown early March, have been on my kitchen windowsill and have grown quickly because of the sunny weather we've had. I noticed today that some of them are already starting to form flower trusses (no flowers yet).Is this a sign of stress? Also, if I put them out in my cold greenhouse this weekend (with tempsforecast to drop) will they suffer even more of a "check" than if they were less developed?
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: goodlife on April 30, 2010, 19:39:12
Your toms are fine..just leave them were they are untill night temps improve..you could harden them off next week after the worst night temps have started to ease out..
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: plainleaf2 on May 01, 2010, 06:16:54
the answer to why they forming flower trusses is simple they have 13 leaves.  tomato plant form flower trusses every 13 leaves.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: caroline7758 on May 01, 2010, 09:52:33
Quote from: plainleaf2 on May 01, 2010, 06:16:54
the answer to why they forming flower trusses is simple they have 13 leaves.  tomato plant form flower trusses every 13 leaves.

Really? As I'm not sure what counts as one leaf, I can't check!
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: small on May 01, 2010, 17:54:15
I got started early with my tomatoes this year and have several varieties flowering, Ailsa Craig, Gardeners Delight, Gartenperle, Roma......I moved them to the greenhouse yesterday and put some fleece and bubble wrap over them for the night. They seem fine so I shall continue wrapping at night for a couple of weeks.
I've just been to check that theory about leaf numbers and can't make it fit any way I count.....but I have fruit set on the Gartenperle!
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: plot51A on May 01, 2010, 18:23:56
I started some in February, ridiculously early as eventually they have to go outdoors. Several are in flower and fruit is set on a Japanese Black Trifele which has been outside on my patio for the past 10 days- quite sheltered and shall bubble wrap if we get really cold temps. But not counting my chickens tomatoes yet.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: manicscousers on May 01, 2010, 19:03:51
Marmande in the poly has a flower on  :o ;D
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 01, 2010, 19:33:01
Quote from: caroline7758 on May 01, 2010, 09:52:33
Really? As I'm not sure what counts as one leaf, I can't check!

A 'leaf' in botanical terms is the whole structure on a leaf stalk, no matter how many leaflets it's broken up into. It's easy to see on a deciduous tree in the autumn as the whole lot falls off in one piece.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: plot51A on May 01, 2010, 19:57:27
Here's a pic of my Japanese Black Trifele.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 02, 2010, 00:09:28
I think Plainleaf is counting leaflets.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: SueK on May 02, 2010, 07:45:35
Mine too gave me a shock when I looked at them yesterday morning, so thank you for the reassurance. 

Some of them are destined for a school fair in June but, as many of the "target audience" will be people growing for the first time, I think maybe flowers will appeal not put off!  At least, I hope so.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: aj on May 02, 2010, 09:16:23
Quote from: plainleaf2 on May 01, 2010, 06:16:54
the answer to why they forming flower trusses is simple they have 13 leaves.  tomato plant form flower trusses every 13 leaves.

13 leaves?

You sure?????

Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: shirlton on May 02, 2010, 09:25:28
Ours are the same. Shirley always flowers low down the stem
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: plainleaf2 on May 02, 2010, 13:06:24
 
Robert_Brenchley the source of the info did not specify leaf or leaflets in case of tomatoes.
But alas my source  can not clarify due to mortality issues.
Title: Re: Premature toms?
Post by: plot51A on May 02, 2010, 16:50:50
I've just counted the leaves below the flowers on my Japanese BT, easier than most as its potato leaved ........ and the answer is.......13  :o