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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: jellied on March 21, 2010, 17:09:34

Title: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: jellied on March 21, 2010, 17:09:34
My plot is West London.

I've finally realised nearly all my canes are dead. Is it to late to buy and plant some new ones? All my books say Autumn is the time to do it.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: lillian on March 21, 2010, 17:17:15
You can still buy them until to the end of March.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: :( on March 21, 2010, 17:41:58
Are you sure theyre dead? The new canes on autumn fruiters wont be through yet,there wont be leaves on summer fruiters yet either. If they really are dead Id go ahead and get new ones otherwise you lose a year, just pick off any flowers this year.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: sunloving on March 21, 2010, 19:00:48
Mine havent broken bud yet so i say go for it!
x sunloving
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: Vortex on March 21, 2010, 20:21:50
My autumn raspberries aren't showing buds yet, which is unusual given the previous 3 years.... but we've had a hard winter this year and virtually everything is later this year than we've become used to.
I've also moved autumn fruiting canes in late April and still had a crop off them the same year.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: saddad on March 21, 2010, 23:28:43
My thoughts exactly Vortex... no signs of life in my Autumn Bliss when I cut them down last week... but they'll be back...  ;D
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: Columbus on March 22, 2010, 08:45:19
Hi Jellied, Hi all  :)

Do you think they are dead because you have brown sticks with no sign of life or because something bad happened? waterlogged perhaps?

If they were Ok last year they are probably just resting. If the roots are Ok then they will put on new growth from the base as the weather warms up. A few new shoots will appear where you don`t want them and these can be dug up with a bit of root attached and used to fill in any gaps in your rows. Just make a slit with a hand trowel and drop the cutting in and pack around it up to the depth of the original growth.

Mine are just begining to show new growth but they are in a very sheltered spot and heavily mulched. Many years ago I worked on a farm and helped plant acres of raspberry canes.

Col
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: shirlton on March 22, 2010, 09:50:58
Same here, ours aren't even showing yet,
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: non-stick on March 22, 2010, 10:23:21
Ours are just starting to show signs of life.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: asbean on March 22, 2010, 11:34:11
I've recently moved mine, (autumn and summer varieties) and they are all showing signs of life. Not much, but no less than the ones that hadn't been moved.  I think most things are well behind this year.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: Squashfan on March 22, 2010, 11:54:16
Hope it's not too late because we just planted some yesterday!  :o
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: plot51A on March 22, 2010, 13:24:35
I only started working my plot last March and planted raspberries then - Joan J from Marshalls. They took well and gave me fruit last year, some even made it home! There are signs of life on them in the last few days. But as others have said I'd make absolutely sure the ones you've got now are actually dead before replacing them.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: artichoke on March 23, 2010, 09:20:42
I hope it's not too late because Marshalls have not sent my VERY expensive Glencoe raspberry yet.

I ordered it to complete my range of colours! Red, yellow, "black".

And I agree - I have a lot of raspberries, and there are very few signs of movement yet, compared to other years.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: Digeroo on March 23, 2010, 09:56:24
Marshalls have not sent my VERY expensive Glencoe raspberry yet.


I thought about one of these but they are very expensive.  Perhaps next year.  I will be interested in their flavour.  I had an idea they came in a pot, so should not matter so much when it is planted.  I have bought strawberries from Marshalls and have been extremely pleased with them, the plants are about twice the size of those from another supplier when they arrived and have grown amazingly fast.  I had a problem over delivery dates and I found their customer service excellent.  I would email them an ask for an update.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: artichoke on March 23, 2010, 12:03:37
The only way to quiet my conscience over Glencoe was to remember that raspberries spread and spread over the years so I'll have it for ever! And can give people bits. And yes, it grows in a pot, so should be all right. Hope it fruits a little this year so I can check on the flavour...

"The recessive gene for spinelessness, from a red raspberry, has been transferred into a black raspberry which was used in further crossing with red raspberry to produce a new diploid spine-free purple raspberry (cv. Glencoe) from SCRI. Tetraploid purple raspberries, obtained by colchicine treatment of germinating seedlings, have larger fruit and better fruit set than diploids in cold conditions at flowering."

Not totally sure what all this means, but it helps to explains the expense.
Title: Re: To late to buy & plant raspberries?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 23, 2010, 14:15:52
Smallish fruit and not so well adapted to cold climates from the sound of it. Diploid - two sets of chromosomes. Tetraploid - four sets. Colchicine treatment  is a known way of getting this particular abnormality.