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Title: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 11, 2010, 20:16:25
well, we've all had some of those!

More seriously or interestingly - was digging in a bed today and encountered a seam of white stuff.  A bed I dug over last autumn and laid over some council 'black' compost and have left since.  The only thing going on in that bed was my wife planting some tulips last autumn.  So the substance - fairly thick and very white.  Was a little startled so had a sniff - smelled a little soapy to me.

Any ideas - sorry I didnt take a snap.

Bizarre!
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Bugloss2009 on March 11, 2010, 20:19:54
Quote from: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 11, 2010, 20:16:25
.  So the substance - fairly thick and very white. 

Wayne Rooney?
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: manicscousers on March 11, 2010, 20:33:08
water retaining gel?
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 11, 2010, 20:34:17
Some sort of fungus?
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: dtw on March 11, 2010, 20:37:14
an old bag of lime?
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: pigeonseed on March 11, 2010, 20:43:09
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QuoteQuote from: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on Today at 20:16:25
.  So the substance - fairly thick and very white.  

Wayne Rooney?

Ha!!!  ;D

I've seen some white stuff in beds before, a bit powdery. I assumed it was fungus. I ignore it. It might mean bad things, but I'm always in a rush to get stuff done so I've never found out.

I'll be watching this thread with interest in the hope someone knows more than me!
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: tonybloke on March 11, 2010, 20:59:11
sounds like thread fungus, it's the stuff that makes soil smell like soil (if that makes sense)
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on March 11, 2010, 21:14:18
Microrhizomes ?
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 11, 2010, 22:25:39
interesting. This bed has not been limed.  I did think of some sort of fungus but the soil seems pretty gooo....

maybe i'll try get some pics tomorrow
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 11, 2010, 23:12:26
needs pics to identify.
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: chriscross1966 on March 12, 2010, 01:13:01
THere's a fungus you get in heaps of overly dry fibrous plant waste called fire-something (sorry, can't remember the second bit).... could it be that?

chrisc
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Jeannine on March 12, 2010, 01:53:07
Onions smell soapy to me when they start to go off...would tulips be the same.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: PurpleHeather on March 12, 2010, 08:15:51
I've noticed it before, seems like it is washed down like calcium or even salt.

Not only in soil but other things which have had water in and left to dry out.

I thought maybe it is in the water. You never know what the rain picks up or washes down with it.
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 14, 2010, 07:45:07
hi all

had another inspection yesterday and am convinced i is a bar of soap in the council 'black' compost - definitely a soapy smell. bizarre!
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: 1066 on March 14, 2010, 07:56:00
I couldn't help wonder at the title of this thread! I was expecting something totally daft  ;D


I'll get me coat...................
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: PurpleHeather on March 14, 2010, 08:31:06
I do confess I have never felt the urge to sniff it.

But being white powder, you never know your luck. May be something some official confiscated and disposed of.
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Tee Gee on March 14, 2010, 10:34:35
You don't mention how successful your wifes tulip growing was!

Could they have contracted a disease and this is rotting tulip bulb you are seeing?

Tulip fire was the first thing that came in my mind, but I always thought that started above ground perhaps I was mistaken.

Have a read of this this;

http://ipm.illinois.edu/diseases/series600/rpd609/index.html#top (http://ipm.illinois.edu/diseases/series600/rpd609/index.html#top)
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 14, 2010, 15:30:11
post some pics, cant identify with seeing...............
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 15, 2010, 15:15:42
Quote from: 1066 on March 14, 2010, 07:56:00
I couldn't help wonder at the title of this thread! I was expecting something totally daft  ;D


I'll get me coat...................

come again?
;D
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: cornykev on March 15, 2010, 19:00:32
I think the mods might make this a sticky post.   :o     :-X      ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: InfraDig on March 15, 2010, 19:02:06
Purple Heather!! That's naughty!
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 15, 2010, 19:53:17
sorry to mention my patch
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: zigzig on March 15, 2010, 20:18:37
Have you thought of tasting it?

Could be 'acid rain'

Have a good trip.....
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 15, 2010, 20:28:35
Quote from: zigzig on March 15, 2010, 20:18:37
Have you thought of tasting it?

Could be 'acid rain'

Have a good trip.....

I wouldn't suggest to anyone they try tasting an unidentified fungus, very very very bad idea........
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Duke Ellington on March 15, 2010, 20:56:38
I once dug up an old clump of red hot poker and found a lump of a white waxy/soap like substance. I had no idea what it was. A friend suggested that it might have been a dead animal that had turned into some kind of fatty mass???
Duke
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 15, 2010, 21:45:59
Quote from: Duke Ellington on March 15, 2010, 20:56:38
I once dug up an old clump of red hot poker and found a lump of a white waxy/soap like substance. I had no idea what it was. A friend suggested that it might have been a dead animal that had turned into some kind of fatty mass???
Duke

Saponification  is the conversion of the fat of a corpse into adipocere, often called "grave wax." This process is more common where the amount of fatty tissue is high, the agents of decomposition are absent or only minutely present, and the burial ground is particularly alkaline.

It also occurs when you throw a corpse into  a deep dark cold lake. The corpse doesnt rot, it just turns into  basically a block of soap.
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on March 16, 2010, 22:12:09
i found what loooked like mole holes in the bed - tunnels.  Soapy mole?  He had some spunk i guess.
Title: Re: Strange substance in a bed
Post by: Digeroo on March 16, 2010, 22:33:59
Perhaps the mole likes a wash and likes a good bar of soap.