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Title: Flag
Post by: Unwashed on March 03, 2010, 19:01:55
(http://www.emilyware.co.uk/blogs/media/blogs/simon/StGeorgeShed.jpg)

What's your view on flags on the allotment?  I'm proud to fly a flag of St. George, and I think it's completely in keeping to fly it on an allotment site, but I guess people can feel differently.  I ask because a neighbour - I live just accross the road from my site - has complained to the council and they've asked me to take the flag down (and take the chimbly off the shed too, though that's another matter).  What do you think?
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: OllieC on March 03, 2010, 19:26:05
I think if you want to be patriotic in your own country it should be allowed, even though I'm not very patriotic myself (that kind of nonsense get's people killed!). Having said that, it is only a flag, and stupid as they are being, I'd take it down (& maybe replace it with a skull & crossbones).
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 03, 2010, 19:41:32
I might fly a skull and crossbones, or maybe the Red Flag, but that's as far as it's going!
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on March 03, 2010, 19:48:45
Don't you need planning permission for a flag pole as its likely to be over 6 ft and in peoples line of sight??

( Bet that chimney is over 6ft as well.  :( :( )
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Mr Smith on March 03, 2010, 19:50:29
Unwashed,
                     What is your fireplace in your shed built out of? I want to do the same when my shed when it  is extended this weekend, :)
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 03, 2010, 19:51:11
Im all for it. The problem with the multi-cultural society thats been forced on us (and without asking us if we wanted it) is that the only culture that doesnt seem to matter anymore is english culture, so I fly a flag from a disused telephone pole in my back yard.
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Fork on March 03, 2010, 19:52:12
While you are at it.....take that shed down too............you are enjoying yourself far too much  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Mr Smith on March 03, 2010, 19:53:40
I fly the Union flag from a 13'6'' beachcaster fishing rod on the Queens birthday on the top of my front gate, totally agree stop enjoying yourself ;D :)
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 03, 2010, 19:53:47
Under Schedule 1 Class H of the Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (England) Regulations 2007, national flags, the flags of the Commonwealth, European Union, the United Nations, English counties and certain saints can be flown without the express consent of local authorities as long as they satisfy the standard conditions for the display of advertisements generally and the conditions and limitations set out within Class H itself.

For saints' flags, the conditions are that they can only be flown in the county with which the saint is associated. This means that the St Piran's flag may be flown freely in Cornwall, but express consent would be required for it to be flown elsewhere in England.

If any of these flags are to be flown no further planning permission is needed for the flag pole, however it may be required if other flags are to be flown.


So as long as you are flying the flag of Saint George, and you are in England, the local council has no power to stop you. Juts quote the law above at them.  I would also ring the local newspaper and embarrass the council and the neighbour. Personally i would take it as an insult to my Queen and country, my culture, and English society to be told to take it down.
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Digeroo on March 03, 2010, 19:59:39
Unfortunately some right wing people have taken over the cross of st george as a racist symbol.  Perhaps someone has got the wrong idea.

Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Bugloss2009 on March 03, 2010, 20:06:06
Quote from: Pesky Wabbit on March 03, 2010, 19:48:45
Don't you need planning permission for a flag pole as its likely to be over 6 ft and in peoples line of sight??

( Bet that chimney is over 6ft as well.  :( :( )

sure this isn't it, and not the flag itself? Theey're not complaining about your flag, but about your unauthorised erection?
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: flitwickone on March 03, 2010, 20:49:10
tell the council to fook off

im gonna do the same and fly my flag boolocks to the lot of em d**n stupid the pc brigade is
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: SamLouise on March 03, 2010, 20:55:55
I'd leave it up :)

Actually, where I live, I see more flags flying from allotments than anywhere else, don't know why ???  Quite a few houses/gardens in my town have them in gardens and/or windows (me being the heathen that I am, only dangle mine during important sporting events, lol) but as I said, I see them flying from allotment sites all over the place!  :)
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: w00dy on March 03, 2010, 21:17:14
I proudly fly the St Georges Cross (although id have no probs with a Union Jack), and quite a few others on our plot, one english fella even flys the turkish flag for some reason, if i was told to take it down i would stand my ground, if you cant fly the colours of your country in said country then there is something severley wrong, after all i dont complain where taxi drivers have Pakistan flags in thier cars of when you see flags on lorries on the motorway, i dont see the problem...............as long as the St Geoge Flys highest while in England.

w00dy
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: dtw on March 03, 2010, 22:18:00
I did have a Cornwall flag, but it's badly deteriorated because of the weather.
I shall fly the England flag when I can get hold of another flagpole.
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Unwashed on March 03, 2010, 23:02:35
Thanks very much for your responses.

I understand that the neighbour thinks the chimbly and flag are "an eyesore".  I said that I can't agree that a George Cross can possibly ever be an eyesore, and I'm disappointed that my neighbours don't have as much pride in my country as I do.

Mr Smith, I cast a 4" hearth directly onto the floor of the shed - it has 1" boards and solid bearers so it's quite sunstantial - and then built the chimbly off that.
(http://www.emilyware.co.uk/blogs/media/blogs/simon/SmallChimney.jpg)
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 04, 2010, 00:28:11
Quote from: Unwashed on March 03, 2010, 23:02:35
Thanks very much for your responses.

I understand that the neighbour thinks the chimbly and flag are "an eyesore".  I said that I can't agree that a George Cross can possibly ever be an eyesore, and I'm disappointed that my neighbours don't have as much pride in my country as I do.

Mr Smith, I cast a 4" hearth directly onto the floor of the shed - it has 1" boards and solid bearers so it's quite sunstantial - and then built the chimbly off that.
(http://www.emilyware.co.uk/blogs/media/blogs/simon/SmallChimney.jpg)

AN EYESORE???? What a pair of cretins. Its a bloody allotment with  a load of wooden sheds, not a gated estate. Where do they think they live - Beverley Hills ?
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: cornykev on March 04, 2010, 17:23:32
Fly it with pride Unwashed, I might put mine up there one day.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: davyw1 on March 04, 2010, 18:50:22
My only comment


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Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Unwashed on March 04, 2010, 19:25:50
You guys are great! ;D
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Peasticks on March 05, 2010, 23:18:48
That shed is great, I would love to look out of my window and see that it would make me smile all the time

miserable gits
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: lavenderlux on March 06, 2010, 07:01:34
Lots of people on our allotment site have flags;  it started about six years ago when one of our plot holders returned from visiting his daughter in Australia and hoisted an Australian flag.  One of the householders who overlooks the allotments complained to the Council about having a flag flying but the Council told them there was no rule against flying a flag on the allotments . . . . .  so it was followed by a lot more!  After all they're 'bird scarers' to keep the pigeons off the brassicas, aren't they!  Some of our plot holders have made their own flags - a white background with their plot number on which is probably quite a good idea.  My current flag, the Union flag, is getting a bit tatty so I'll be replacing it soon.
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Squash64 on March 06, 2010, 07:13:09
Quote from: Bugloss2009 on March 03, 2010, 20:06:06
( Bet  Theey're not complaining about your flag, but about your unauthorised erection?

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Mrs Gumboot on March 06, 2010, 11:00:31
I think they're probably just jealous - that shed looks cosier then my house  ;D
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: allaboutliverpool on March 06, 2010, 18:00:03
I am going to get a flag and pole!
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: davyw1 on March 06, 2010, 18:04:29
Quote from: allaboutliverpool on March 06, 2010, 18:00:03
I am going to get a flag and pole!
Whats wrong with a Slovak or Russian
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 06, 2010, 19:25:38
Quote from: davyw1 on March 06, 2010, 18:04:29
Quote from: allaboutliverpool on March 06, 2010, 18:00:03
I am going to get a flag and pole!
Whats wrong with a Slovak or Russian

is there an extra 'l' in there ?



Just checking, thats all...............
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: allaboutliverpool on March 06, 2010, 20:03:07
Sorry, a flag and a poe.
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: lincsyokel2 on March 06, 2010, 20:15:16
Quote from: allaboutliverpool on March 06, 2010, 20:03:07
Sorry, a flag and a poe.

Ah now i understand  ::)

(http://www.clim-atic.org/images/logos/uk-flag.png) (http://alangullette.com/lit/poe/poe.jpg)
Title: Re: Flag
Post by: Unwashed on March 06, 2010, 21:10:31
Quote from: lincsyokel2 on March 06, 2010, 19:25:38
is there an extra 'l' in there ?
No, nevermore.