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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Mortality on February 24, 2010, 18:03:51

Title: Peas Please
Post by: Mortality on February 24, 2010, 18:03:51
While reading about peas on another site I decided to look up some of these old and interesting sounding varieties. The site below is part of what I found and is fascinating.

http://www.seeds.ca/hpd/cvlist.php?species=Pea&limit=500&records=1838

Enjoy. :)
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: chriscross1966 on February 24, 2010, 18:13:27
I've got some of the Alderman/Telephone, one fo the Italian seedhouses sells them as "Telefono"....

Alaska gave rise to all the overwintering peas we have these days, but I doubt one in ten of the others is still in cultivation even in the heirloom houses...
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chrisc
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Digeroo on February 24, 2010, 18:21:23
I have purple podded if you would like some, and if I can find where I put them some telefono.  I also have snow peas.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 24, 2010, 18:37:09
Any idea which purple-podded? There are a lot of varieties, and many of them either never had 'proper' names or lost them. They were field peas which were dried and used for things like pea soup, mushy peas and pease pudding. I could spare a few Robinson's Purple Podded (ex Robinson's seeds, hence the name), Alderman, or Magnum Bonum, which is another tall green podded variety. I like it better than Alderman. I'll be trying a lot more this year, I've gone a bit overboard.

A good site for pea info is here: http://www.angelfire.com/az/garethknight/dots/peacollection.html .
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Mortality on February 25, 2010, 13:19:02
Oh Id like some of the purple podded if there are some to spare.  ;D
The Daughter of the soil blog is so interesting, all the crossbreeding must be such fun to do. :) Makes me wish I had more room. :-\
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: saddad on February 25, 2010, 13:58:01
I have some of the original HSL Purple Podded and Lancashire Lad, which is similar...  :)
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Mortality on April 01, 2010, 12:52:20
I have no will power, my Purple podded pea - Desiree and Golden sweet just arrived this morning.  from http://www.plantsofdistinction.co.uk/

My 'normal' peas 'Onward' are growing nicely too.

Looks like my first year growing stuff is going to be colourful  ;D especially when you add in the Painted Mountain corn.   :P
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: manicscousers on April 01, 2010, 13:35:44
I know what you mean about willpower, Mortality, I have none in some areas..I've just taken delivery of some Victorian Colossal climbing pea plants from victoriana nurseries, reputed to grow to 8' plus..been grown since the 1890's, just couldn't resist  ;D
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 01, 2010, 13:42:14
I wonder what that is? It's described as 'Allderman', but it's too tall for Alderman. I've got a few seeds of Colossus, which might or might not be the same thing. We'll have to compare notes.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: manicscousers on April 01, 2010, 13:47:41
will do, Robert, quite excited and dying to save some seeds for next year , hope they're worth it   ;D
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: saddad on April 01, 2010, 16:36:44
Many of my Heritage peas... Magnum Bonum, Purple Podded and so on exceed 8' in a good season...   ;D
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: manicscousers on April 01, 2010, 18:42:13
gonna need a crook to drag 'em down to my level  ;D
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Jeannine on April 01, 2010, 19:33:03
What a super posting, I have wanted tall growing peas for ages and only ever knew about 1, I was thinking of getting Mr Big over here, I have never heard of that one before but of course it is a newer one, yours sound very exciting, I am off to look, do hope they will post over here. Thank you for the  info XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 01, 2010, 20:04:17
There are loads of tall peas available over that side of the Atlantic. There's a good site for seed swaps here: http://alanbishop.proboards.com/index.cgi? .
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: keepondiggin on April 01, 2010, 22:33:48
I'm trying some tall peas this year as well-purple podded and golden podded- as these grow to 6-8 feet  I undestand I need to space the rows 6-8 feet.I will also be growing a runner bean double row in the same area-do I need to space the same distance between the beans and the peas or can they be closer? Just thought I'd ask in this thread-hop you don't mind
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 01, 2010, 23:58:47
If you're growing them in rows you probably do, or they'll shade each other. I grow them all up wigwams and put them a couple of feet apart. It works.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Jeannine on April 02, 2010, 04:06:45
Thanks for the link Robert,  XX Jeannine
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: bruno on April 02, 2010, 07:52:53
Alderman Peas

I have Alderman but on the box it gives the sowing period Oct - Feb. Is it too late to start these in an unheated greenhouse for this year?

Bruno
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 02, 2010, 09:52:06
Not at all; I wouldn't risk putting a wrinkly pea in over winter! I haven't planted mine yet; I wait for it to warm up, then plant them. If you plant wrinkly peas in cold soil, they rot.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: goodlife on April 02, 2010, 10:15:15
This year I grow Early Alaskan, Alderman, Lincoln, Serpette Guilloteau, Mammoth Melting Sugar Snow, Half Pint and good old sugar snap.
I'll hope this year is better one as last year sparrows were in need of salad suppliers.. ::)..no amount of mesh, covering,cd's ..name it, could not keep them away..must been really tasty...oh well..they left other things well and truly alone... ;D
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 02, 2010, 10:18:07
It was pigeons that walloped my peas last year; if it wasn't for them, they might have been strong enough to survive the flood in good condition. I found I could scare them off with nets, even though I couldn't make them bird proof.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: keepondiggin on April 02, 2010, 10:19:15
Thanks Robert -will use wigwams then otherwise they will be taking a lot of room up!
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: galina on April 03, 2010, 11:39:15
Quote from: chriscross1966 on February 24, 2010, 18:13:27
I've got some of the Alderman/Telephone, one fo the Italian seedhouses sells them as "Telefono"....

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chrisc

Just to clarify:  Alderman aka Tall Telephone is a different variety to Telephone.  However both are tall.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Mortality on April 14, 2010, 14:24:58
Quote from: Mortality on April 01, 2010, 12:52:20
I have no will power, my Purple podded pea - Desiree and Golden sweet just arrived this morning.  from http://www.plantsofdistinction.co.uk/

My 'normal' peas 'Onward' are growing nicely too.

Looks like my first year growing stuff is going to be colourful  ;D especially when you add in the Painted Mountain corn.   :P

(http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/gallery/10575_14_04_10_2_16_41.jpg)

Coming along nicely, I am amazed at the difference between the plants (Purple podded and Golden Sweet), planted on the same day.
Title: Re: Peas Please
Post by: Florain on April 14, 2010, 22:00:39
d**n! Now I have had to add the yellow peas to my purple podded, telephone and champion. I do love tall peas :D