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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Mortality on January 24, 2010, 11:04:50

Title: Garlic
Post by: Mortality on January 24, 2010, 11:04:50
Is there any reason I can't grow Garlic from the bulbs you buy in the supermarket?
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: saddad on January 24, 2010, 12:09:29
Most will grow OK...  :)
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: pigeonseed on January 24, 2010, 12:58:25
Some people report problems with disease, but I have also always done it without problems.

Have a go?
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: tim on January 24, 2010, 13:21:59
Not just 'if' - or disease - but size too?

Most s/market cloves are 1/4-1/3rd the size of the ones I'm putting in.
See earlier. http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,57493.0.html
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: pigeonseed on January 25, 2010, 15:50:09
interesting, thanks Tim
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: Mortality on January 25, 2010, 17:59:08
Thanks everyone  ;D
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: lewic on January 25, 2010, 19:05:59
Last November I planted some cloves from a large already-sprouting organic garlic from a health food shop. I thought they didnt get much better than that. They took 6 months to grow to the size of 6" pencils, and the single bulb each clove produced wasnt any bigger than the one I put in the ground.

This Nov I planted some from the garden centre and within a week they were a couple of inches high, and are now bigger than last years ones ever got. Wouldnt ever bother with shop-bought ones again!
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: realfood on January 25, 2010, 19:24:00
Most of the garlic in the supermarkets comes  from climates that are very different from ours, and the results can be very much hit or miss.
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: tim on January 25, 2010, 19:34:56
Like Chinese??
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: realfood on January 25, 2010, 20:21:36
Indeed Chinese. I did try planting some "solo" Chinese garlic in the autumn out of curiosity. It grew strongly, but has now collapsed, while my other garlics are fine.
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: tim on January 25, 2010, 20:33:15
Nice site.
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: chriscross1966 on January 25, 2010, 21:26:52
Quote from: realfood on January 25, 2010, 20:21:36
Indeed Chinese. I did try planting some "solo" Chinese garlic in the autumn out of curiosity. It grew strongly, but has now collapsed, while my other garlics are fine.

I've got a few of those in too, will have to check them this weekend.... THere's two theories as to what they are that I've heard.... either:

Whacky cultivar/species that grows from seed to produce single bulb in a year  then bolts to flower (so I'll have flowers this year) in a way much like an onion does or:

Normalish cultivar grown without a cold period so therefor goes from small clove to big single-clove bulb in its second year.....

Either sounds pretty believable to me, certainly the ones I had had no trace of ever being part of a cluseter, they were just too perfectly round..... if they fflower I will try to ensure that none of the other garlic near them gets to (I#'d habitually remove garlic flowers anyway) so if it is the seed-bulb in a year scenario I should ahve seed for next year....

chrisc
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: Vinlander on January 25, 2010, 22:40:25
I regard it as pretty normal for garlic to occasionally form a single huge clove - 95% of the times it has been from a late spring sowing but not always...

I find it quite useful - if the bulbs earmarked for planting have some small cloves I often can't be bothered peeling them for the pot, so I save them and plant much later - turning a tiny clove into a medium clove is much more useful than turning it into 10 even tinier cloves!

Cheers.
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: chriscross1966 on January 26, 2010, 01:11:17
Quote from: Vinlander on January 25, 2010, 22:40:25
I regard it as pretty normal for garlic to occasionally form a single huge clove - 95% of the times it has been from a late spring sowing but not always...

I find it quite useful - if the bulbs earmarked for planting have some small cloves I often can't be bothered peeling them for the pot, so I save them and plant much later - turning a tiny clove into a medium clove is much more useful than turning it into 10 even tinier cloves!

Cheers.

Good point... I'll try and remember that....

chrisc
Title: Re: Garlic
Post by: tim on January 26, 2010, 08:31:29
Put them very close & use green.