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Title: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 16:07:48
Does anyone have any recipies involving eggs (one yoke contains enough daily iron for a 5 year old) that might tempt a 6 year old very picky eater.

He is Iron deficent and wont eat green veg or red meat.

Ive made cakes and pancakes which he will eat, any other ideas?  ???
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: w00dy on January 16, 2010, 16:12:40
Maybee some kind of omlette? or spanish omlette?

w00dy
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Hyacinth on January 16, 2010, 16:17:48
Yorkshire puds? (not all yorkies have to be savoury...)

Any chance he'll eat fresh pasta, either 'plain' or filled...ravioli/tortellini? Eggs in that.

Will he eat white meat, btw? Chicken breast slice egg&breadcrumbed?
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: macmac on January 16, 2010, 16:19:58
Have you tried beating egg into mashed potato with perhaps a little cheese?Even ketchup is considered healthy so could add to the disguise. ;)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 16:37:04
Omelette and scrambled egg he wont touch.

Yorkshire puds, yes he likes those.

Fresh pasta and noodles he will eat but not with fillings or sauces.

He will eat chicken and rarely fish fingers.

He wont eat mashed potato.

:-\
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: elvis2003 on January 16, 2010, 16:42:12
lots of breakfast cereals are fortified with iron,nuts and pulses are rich in iron too. if you give him something rich in vitamin c at the same time,his body will absorb the iron better.
we didnt like certain foods when we were small,but were persuaded to eat them,is there no way you can do the same? esp as there are health concerns?
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 16:48:36
Quote from: elvis2003 on January 16, 2010, 16:42:12
lots of breakfast cereals are fortified with iron,nuts and pulses are rich in iron too. if you give him something rich in vitamin c at the same time,his body will absorb the iron better.
we didnt like certain foods when we were small,but were persuaded to eat them,is there no way you can do the same? esp as there are health concerns?

We do give him fortified cereals and usually a glass of Ribena (vit C) for breakfast.
He went for his third blood test at the beginning of the month and we are hoping the results are better this time.
My son is Autisitc and unfortunately persuasion at this stage wont work, not even the promise of a tasty treat. :-\
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: elvis2003 on January 16, 2010, 16:51:26
good luck,i hope you get better results too
rach
x
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: lewic on January 16, 2010, 16:59:01
Quiche? You could make one with no pastry (or use filo pastry) so he doesnt just fill up on flour. Dried figs and apricots are even better sources than eggs, most kids will eat them as they are sweet, and if you put them in cakes it means you can use less sugar. Get the unsulphured ones though, as the bright orange ones are full of chemicals (and not so tasty!)

Molasses are a good source of iron so you may be able to use this instead of sugar in some cake recipes.

Some beans are very good sources of iron - the vegetarian society mentions chick peas but aduki beans and some others are too. Perhaps you could make some hummus or other tasty beany dips? Maybe he would eat greens if they are disguised in something like pesto as a dip? I wouldnt advise supermarket ketchup or baked beans as these have loads of sugar and sweeteners in, which trains their taste buds away from natural food - brocolli will end up tasting horrid and bitter!

Make sure he gets lots of vitamin C rich foods as this helps iron absorbtion. It might be good to leave out bowls of fresh fruit, and dried fruit and nuts so he can graze on them.

I trained in nutrition but havent got an kids.. so this is very much theoretical!!

www.vegsoc.org/info/iron.html
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: lewic on January 16, 2010, 17:06:13
Several posts beat mine to it.. have just read that your son is autistic.

I would recomment contacting Patrick Holford's Food for the Brain project http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1604 for advice, they know a lot more than any of the NHS dieticians or doctors!

Good luck, I hope you find some help for your son.

Cath x

Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 17:12:14
Quote from: lewic on January 16, 2010, 16:59:01
Quiche? You could make one with no pastry (or use filo pastry) so he doesnt just fill up on flour. Dried figs and apricots are even better sources than eggs, most kids will eat them as they are sweet, and if you put them in cakes it means you can use less sugar. Get the unsulphured ones though, as the bright orange ones are full of chemicals (and not so tasty!)

Molasses are a good source of iron so you may be able to use this instead of sugar in some cake recipes.

Some beans are very good sources of iron - the vegetarian society mentions chick peas but aduki beans and some others are too. Perhaps you could make some hummus or other tasty beany dips? Maybe he would eat greens if they are disguised in something like pesto as a dip? I wouldnt advise supermarket ketchup or baked beans as these have loads of sugar and sweeteners in, which trains their taste buds away from natural food - brocolli will end up tasting horrid and bitter!

Make sure he gets lots of vitamin C rich foods as this helps iron absorbtion. It might be good to leave out bowls of fresh fruit, and dried fruit and nuts so he can graze on them.

I trained in nutrition but havent got an kids.. so this is very much theoretical!!

www.vegsoc.org/info/iron.html


Tried quiche before he would only eat the pastry  :-\
Figrolls he does enjoy, my 2 sons eat at least a packet of those a day.
Apricots he wont eat.
The only beans he would eat are baked beans..
He wont eat fresh fruit only purees and rarely a banana.
Nuts we can't try yet because of a family history of allergies on both sides. My youngest son might get hold of them hes 2 and a half and not the least bit picky (except about drinking cows milk).
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 17:32:05
Quote from: lewic on January 16, 2010, 17:06:13
Several posts beat mine to it.. have just read that your son is autistic.

I would recomment contacting Patrick Holford's Food for the Brain project http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1604 for advice, they know a lot more than any of the NHS dieticians or doctors!

Good luck, I hope you find some help for your son.

Cath x

Oh thats really interesting, ty  :)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: lewic on January 16, 2010, 17:40:45
I do sympathise! Don't give up giving him new things though, a 'quiche' with no pastry doesnt have to be called a quiche. Sometimes they just remember the name and the fact that they dont like it (am recalling my own fussy childhood here!). And health food shops will probably have things that look like supermarket foods when you show him the tin, but will be healthier.

Remember being taken to the school doctor as I wouldnt eat school dinners age 6-ish. And I was (possibly still am!) definitely on the autistic spectrum, though it (IMO fortunately) was not recognised at the time. All I would eat was fruit and nuts and bacon, and I drove my mum up the wall.. but turned out OK-ish  ;)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: manicscousers on January 16, 2010, 17:58:30
ours wouldn't eat eggs but would eat 'eggy toast', hope the blood tests are ok  :)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 18:05:28
Quote from: lewic on January 16, 2010, 17:40:45
I do sympathise! Don't give up giving him new things though, a 'quiche' with no pastry doesnt have to be called a quiche. Sometimes they just remember the name and the fact that they dont like it (am recalling my own fussy childhood here!). And health food shops will probably have things that look like supermarket foods when you show him the tin, but will be healthier.

Remember being taken to the school doctor as I wouldnt eat school dinners age 6-ish. And I was (possibly still am!) definitely on the autistic spectrum, though it (IMO fortunately) was not recognised at the time. All I would eat was fruit and nuts and bacon, and I drove my mum up the wall.. but turned out OK-ish  ;)

From what ive been told, we are all on the autism spectrum, its just that with some they are higher up on the scale. My son is more to the speach and language side and unable to interact with his peers, but he is improving.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 18:08:57
Quote from: manicscousers on January 16, 2010, 17:58:30
ours wouldn't eat eggs but would eat 'eggy toast', hope the blood tests are ok  :)

heh I tried eggy toast, because he will eat bread, any bread, he wouldnt have it.
I even tried putting egg yoke in his baked beans and heating it like that, he didnt eat it.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: macmac on January 16, 2010, 18:23:40
any chance you could involve him in the cooking/preparation of food ?even stuff he wouldn't usually eat he could be help make something for the family and along the way might be tempted  :)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 18:43:13
Quote from: macmac on January 16, 2010, 18:23:40
any chance you could involve him in the cooking/preparation of food ?even stuff he wouldn't usually eat he could be help make something for the family and along the way might be tempted  :)

We have tried, but to be honest unless its cake or biscuits he isnt interested  ::)
I'm hoping that with him helping me with our new vegetable garden it will tempt him, but so far all we have been able to do is dig it and pull out the roots.
The first time we went out to dig it he just watched from the path, the second time I went to finish the digging he surprised me by actively helping me pull out roots, progress in small steps.
Also when the first of the seeds arrived, he wanted to plant them straight away, but the garden isnt ready yet  ;D
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: w00dy on January 16, 2010, 18:56:32
Not very healthy but egg fried rice?

w00dy
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: pigeonseed on January 16, 2010, 18:58:23
QuoteI would recomment contacting Patrick Holford's Food for the Brain project http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1604 for advice, they know a lot more than any of the NHS dieticians or doctors!

Lewic - you sound very knowledgable about nutrition. But isn't Patrick Holford one of those dodgy nutritionists who make it all up? The name rings a bell.

Good luck Mortality, it sounds so exhausting trying so many things.  

You've had so many interesting suggestions - I can only think of two more - does he like anything battered?

Also potato cakes with egg. If it's a bit too like mashed potato, you can add flour and baking powder, and they turn out more like potatoey pancakes.

Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 19:05:32
Quote from: w00dy on January 16, 2010, 18:56:32
Not very healthy but egg fried rice?

w00dy

humm, he might, depending upon what goes in, worth a try, ty  ;D
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 19:09:25
Quote from: pigeonseed on January 16, 2010, 18:58:23
QuoteI would recomment contacting Patrick Holford's Food for the Brain project http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1604 for advice, they know a lot more than any of the NHS dieticians or doctors!

Lewic - you sound very knowledgable about nutrition. But isn't Patrick Holford one of those dodgy nutritionists who make it all up? The name rings a bell.

Good luck Mortality, it sounds so exhausting trying so many things.  

You've had so many interesting suggestions - I can only think of two more - does he like anything battered?

Also potato cakes with egg. If it's a bit too like mashed potato, you can add flour and baking powder, and they turn out more like potatoey pancakes.


ohh batter, good idea, that would work, he likes chicken in batter and if I tell him its potato 'cakes' he would probabily help me make them !! Great idea.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Jeannine on January 17, 2010, 00:08:44
What about a sort of egg nog with the sort of flavourings he likes, or ice cream made with eggs, If he will eat custard you can work them in there  or beat an egg into yoghurt and you can freeze all of the above .

I would certainly do a fried rice, you can make a low fat one and make the eggie bits very tiny.

You can add egg to your pastry, my regular one has 1 egg in it but you can add more .

I have a book somewhere about picky eaters and how to hide stuff, I will try to find it.

If he likes fish cakes you can work egg in there too.

Try chips dipped in very eggy batter before you fry them, they are so good too, or make scallopps, even scallopped potatoes can hide eggs

XX Jeannine

I have just found th book mentioned but it is The Art of Hiding Vegetables,, sorry no info on eggs but I cab look uo any veggies tricks if you give me an idea of what.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: lewic on January 17, 2010, 07:24:20
QuoteBut isn't Patrick Holford one of those dodgy nutritionists who make it all up?

There are groups like Sense about Science and Quackwatch which are out to discredit all alternative therapies, including nutritional therapy. The make no distinction between the truly dodgy therapies and ones that have helped a lot of people. They have massive funding from pharmaceutical companies and manufacturers of GM foods, and their PR departments are behind many of the stories you read in the papers attacking alternative therapy or stating that X junk food is good for you. I usually Google the name of the scientists involved in the 'research' and find they work for Glaxo, Monsanto etc. State registered dietician/nutritionist degrees are invariably funded by dodgy sources (I applied for one and was shocked to find their main funder was the Sugar Bureau!). Patrick Holford is always in their firing line because he is doing them out of business. His dietary recommendations seem like common sense to me!
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: coznbob on January 17, 2010, 09:05:38
It maybe a myth, but think dark chocolate has a fair bit of iron in it. Was recommended by a midwife to eat it, when pregnant and anemic.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 17, 2010, 09:09:26
It's hard to know how food affects people, but as with artificial additives it certainly does have an affect.

My son was first prescribed Styron an Iron medication.

http://emc.medicines.org.uk/document.aspx?documentId=1040

it contains : Ponceau 4R (E124) (an artificial red colouring)

in the words of his foundation year teacher, 'he was so hyperactive he was bouncing off the walls'.

I think what shocked me was that they still put this junk in medicines, why the hell does a medicine need a colouring? (flavouring I might be able to understand)

My son now drinks a water (Spatone) which is naturally high in iron.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 17, 2010, 09:12:13
Quote from: coznbob on January 17, 2010, 09:05:38
It maybe a myth, but think dark chocolate has a fair bit of iron in it. Was recommended by a midwife to eat it, when pregnant and anemic.

I think thats true, I can remember my mother saying the same, she used to have dark chocolate before her period. (low iron levels causes irratibility !)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 17, 2010, 09:34:59
Quote from: Jeannine on January 17, 2010, 00:08:44
What about a sort of egg nog with the sort of flavourings he likes, or ice cream made with eggs, If he will eat custard you can work them in there  or beat an egg into yoghurt and you can freeze all of the above .

I would certainly do a fried rice, you can make a low fat one and make the eggie bits very tiny.

You can add egg to your pastry, my regular one has 1 egg in it but you can add more .

I have a book somewhere about picky eaters and how to hide stuff, I will try to find it.

If he likes fish cakes you can work egg in there too.

Try chips dipped in very eggy batter before you fry them, they are so good too, or make scallopps, even scallopped potatoes can hide eggs

XX Jeannine

I have just found th book mentioned but it is The Art of Hiding Vegetables,, sorry no info on eggs but I cab look uo any veggies tricks if you give me an idea of what.

Thank you some great ideas there too ;)
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: SueK on January 17, 2010, 15:28:42
Apologies if someone has already mentioned this (I didn't notice it) but alongside having vitamin C in meals is not having tea/coffee - this prevents iron from veggie sources being absorbed as well. 
Best regards,
Sue
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Melbourne12 on January 17, 2010, 16:20:19
I can't help much with picky eating caused by autism, I'm afraid.  But in terms of iron content of foods, I just looked up the USDA database.  Practically, enriched breakfast cereals are the number one choice, albeit high in sugar.  They typically range from 20 to 60 mg/100g of product.

It's interesting that many herbs and spices are high in iron.  Obviously you don't eat a bowlful like a breakfast cereal, but if your son likes cakes and biscuits, you might try spiced recipes, including, say, cinnamon (38mg/100g), ginger (12), or saffron (11).  Add bran to the biscuits for a further iron boost. Rice bran is around 19, wheat bran 11.  Oat bran is only 5 or 6, though, so not much more than wheat flour.  And of course you can make egg-rich recipes.

Finally, would he eat pate? Liver is high in iron.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Hyacinth on January 17, 2010, 16:54:26
That's such an interesting post, Melbourne. Thanks 8) Such a pity that the trade-off with cereals seems to be the sugar content, tho. Are all cereals like this? (dunno me, in our house they come in - or don't, in our case ::) under the generic name of 'chaff' ;))

I know nothing about autism, and have experienced little of 'picky' eating (chaff excepted ::)) but do take on board that if blood tests show a particular deficiency it should be addressed - and preferably for long-term, through diet? It must be hard being laid-back and not passing on your stress to your children?
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 17, 2010, 17:29:10
Quote from: Melbourne12 on January 17, 2010, 16:20:19
I can't help much with picky eating caused by autism, I'm afraid.  But in terms of iron content of foods, I just looked up the USDA database.  Practically, enriched breakfast cereals are the number one choice, albeit high in sugar.  They typically range from 20 to 60 mg/100g of product.

It's interesting that many herbs and spices are high in iron.  Obviously you don't eat a bowlful like a breakfast cereal, but if your son likes cakes and biscuits, you might try spiced recipes, including, say, cinnamon (38mg/100g), ginger (12), or saffron (11).  Add bran to the biscuits for a further iron boost. Rice bran is around 19, wheat bran 11.  Oat bran is only 5 or 6, though, so not much more than wheat flour.  And of course you can make egg-rich recipes.

Finally, would he eat pate? Liver is high in iron.

He has no problem eating cereals of any sort..even porridge goes down well  :D but he does take ages to eat it and some is usually still in the bowl when we leave for school.
I didnt know that about the spices/herbs, I think he would definitely go for biscuits and cakes made with cinnamon or ginger.
He wont eat pate, I have tried even though its not reccomended for under 5s (or pregnant women) due to the nasty bugs it can sometimes contain.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 17, 2010, 17:40:32
Quote from: Hyacinth on January 17, 2010, 16:54:26
That's such an interesting post, Melbourne. Thanks 8) Such a pity that the trade-off with cereals seems to be the sugar content, tho. Are all cereals like this? (dunno me, in our house they come in - or don't, in our case ::) under the generic name of 'chaff' ;))

I know nothing about autism, and have experienced little of 'picky' eating (chaff excepted ::)) but do take on board that if blood tests show a particular deficiency it should be addressed - and preferably for long-term, through diet? It must be hard being laid-back and not passing on your stress to your children?

If my son had his way he would eat chicken dippers, smiley faces (potato), baked beans and ketchup for every meal. We are slowly tempting him to try more things. He wont have school meals, so he has a packed lunch, which we try and balance with things he will eat. The school allow him to have a drink of Ribena (vit C for iron absorbtion)

Its just some times I get stumpted for ideas.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Vinlander on January 18, 2010, 01:44:04
Two suggestions:

1) Root veg pick up a lot of iron - if he will eat pastry he might eat it with steamed (not boiled) mashed roots in it - easiest as dumplings but should still work as piecrusts etc.

Steamed or baked Beetroot (including easily-camouflaged white and gold kinds) and salsify are best - equal to the best greens, but parsnips, swedes and potatoes (washed not peeled) not far behind. Then turnips. Carrots have only half as much as parsnips but still useful - so carrot cake might help!

Incidentally Irn-Bru only contains 0.002% Ammonium Ferric Citrate so you'd be better off making red pop from beetroot juice! Or you could simply try adding beetroot juice to lemonade or whatever.

2) If you want a nut you can't do better than tigernuts - they taste a lot like coconut but are actually a root. Buy onliine - eg. www.ludlownutco.co.uk

Cannot possibly trigger a nut, seed or fruit allergy!

"The tiger nut provides 4.21 mg of iron per 100 g" (www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1338206.html).

I wouldn't recommend chewing them (good - but like coconut you eventually get a mouthful of powder) - best as horchata de chufas - Valencian name for tigernut milk. Simply put overnight-soaked tigernuts in a blender with 2 or more times the volume of water, whizz, leave to settle, decant (or strain) and add sugar to taste.

Delicious - better than coconut milk (and I've had loads of that straight from freshly fallen nuts).

The nutty residue is also delicious in cakes and breads.

Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 18, 2010, 08:05:38
Quote from: Vinlander on January 18, 2010, 01:44:04
Two suggestions:

1) Root veg pick up a lot of iron - if he will eat pastry he might eat it with steamed (not boiled) mashed roots in it - easiest as dumplings but should still work as piecrusts etc.

Steamed or baked Beetroot (including easily-camouflaged white and gold kinds) and salsify are best - equal to the best greens, but parsnips, swedes and potatoes (washed not peeled) not far behind. Then turnips. Carrots have only half as much as parsnips but still useful - so carrot cake might help!

Incidentally Irn-Bru only contains 0.002% Ammonium Ferric Citrate so you'd be better off making red pop from beetroot juice! Or you could simply try adding beetroot juice to lemonade or whatever.

2) If you want a nut you can't do better than tigernuts - they taste a lot like coconut but are actually a root. Buy onliine - eg. www.ludlownutco.co.uk

Cannot possibly trigger a nut, seed or fruit allergy!

"The tiger nut provides 4.21 mg of iron per 100 g" (www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1338206.html).

I wouldn't recommend chewing them (good - but like coconut you eventually get a mouthful of powder) - best as horchata de chufas - Valencian name for tigernut milk. Simply put overnight-soaked tigernuts in a blender with 2 or more times the volume of water, whizz, leave to settle, decant (or strain) and add sugar to taste.

Delicious - better than coconut milk (and I've had loads of that straight from freshly fallen nuts).

The nutty residue is also delicious in cakes and breads.



Thanks very much, I didnt realise that about root veg, all your suggestions greatfully recieved. :D
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 18, 2010, 18:05:14
A small sucess and a sneaky one at that  ;D

'Potato cake' is what I told him it was and he helped me make it.

He tasted it before we put it into the dish and liked it.

Mashed potato, egg yokes and butter, put into a dish forked like a Cottage pie and browned off.

Hes eating it now, I told him he could make it pink by mixing it with ketchup..he laughed... I can hear my mother now...'Don't play with your food'...
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: PurpleHeather on January 19, 2010, 06:51:45
Iron deficiency is a peculiar area

It is not just the iron which is found in lots of foods there is also the breaking it down once it gets inside.

This site is quite helpful

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/nutrition/nutrition_for_everyone/iron_deficiency/index.htm
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: emmy1978 on January 19, 2010, 11:01:42
Hi mortality-I work with children on the autistic spectrum and I know food is a huge problem area for many parents. I also have my own picky eater in the family although eggs aren't our problem. Most of my parents say that when they find a winner they tend to stick to it as much as they can - you are introducing new foods in such a great way-by getting him involved he is much more likely to want to eat it-this holds true for most kids!
I have one recipe (Jamie's) which is egg rich-I can't remember if you've said if your son will eat pasta but if he will....
Pasta shapes-whichever are his fav and if he'll eat the tricolore then great. Bacon, grilled then snipped into pieces, handful of peas in with the pasta at the end. Drain, put into a large bowl, mix in the bacon. In a cup beat together one egg and single cream (about the same of cream as the egg, maybe bit more) and fold into pasta mix.
The trick with this is do the final mix in a bowl. You don't want to the egg to cook as in egg fried rice and scramble, it should just create a nice silky invisible sauce.
I then add mint to lift it a bit a la jamie but when i first made it I left that out for Miss Picky Pants who now loves it.
All the best to you, it's not easy.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 19, 2010, 16:13:45
Quote from: emmy1978 on January 19, 2010, 11:01:42
Hi mortality-I work with children on the autistic spectrum and I know food is a huge problem area for many parents. I also have my own picky eater in the family although eggs aren't our problem. Most of my parents say that when they find a winner they tend to stick to it as much as they can - you are introducing new foods in such a great way-by getting him involved he is much more likely to want to eat it-this holds true for most kids!
I have one recipe (Jamie's) which is egg rich-I can't remember if you've said if your son will eat pasta but if he will....
Pasta shapes-whichever are his fav and if he'll eat the tricolore then great. Bacon, grilled then snipped into pieces, handful of peas in with the pasta at the end. Drain, put into a large bowl, mix in the bacon. In a cup beat together one egg and single cream (about the same of cream as the egg, maybe bit more) and fold into pasta mix.
The trick with this is do the final mix in a bowl. You don't want to the egg to cook as in egg fried rice and scramble, it should just create a nice silky invisible sauce.
I then add mint to lift it a bit a la jamie but when i first made it I left that out for Miss Picky Pants who now loves it.
All the best to you, it's not easy.


I havent tried him with the tri colour pasta, but I dont see why he wouldnt go for it, he likes other pasta. I wouldnt be able to put in the peas. Bacon and ham he hasnt gone for in the past, but if its really small he might. All woth a try ;D
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 19, 2010, 16:25:44
Good news, I telephoned the surgery today, because he had the last tests on the 4th of January and his blood is now normal. :D

Thank you everyone for your suggestions and recipies, they will hopefully add more variety to his diet  ;D
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: emmy1978 on January 22, 2010, 12:15:52
Oh well, that's good news.  ;D Maybe you could use the sauce to go with any ingredients he likes plus the pasta. I didn't know if he'd eat it as the first time my two were given it they looked at me as if I'd finally lost the plot.  ::) They like it tho as it tastes like normal pasta!!!
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Hyacinth on January 22, 2010, 12:34:46
Pleased about the good outcome, Morts.

As an aside...ever watched a 'picky eater' at a children's party, diving in like all the other children? Amazing!!
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: tlc on January 24, 2010, 20:47:51
My son is also on the autistic spectrum and was a hugely fussy eater for a number of years - we had two or three years when all he would eat was weetabix and milk for breakfast and pasta with pasta sauce for all other meals so you have my sympathy.  I can remember the excitement when he finally ate a piece of crust on a pizza!

I'm glad your son's iron levels are ok now and hopefully they will stay that way. 
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 24, 2010, 20:59:14
Quote from: Hyacinth on January 22, 2010, 12:34:46
Pleased about the good outcome, Morts.

As an aside...ever watched a 'picky eater' at a children's party, diving in like all the other children? Amazing!!

ty hun

As for the party, we took him to a childrens birthday party before we knew he was autistic, he only ate a few crisps and a drink of coke, so no not in this case.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 24, 2010, 21:11:09
Quote from: tlc on January 24, 2010, 20:47:51
My son is also on the autistic spectrum and was a hugely fussy eater for a number of years - we had two or three years when all he would eat was weetabix and milk for breakfast and pasta with pasta sauce for all other meals so you have my sympathy.  I can remember the excitement when he finally ate a piece of crust on a pizza!

I'm glad your son's iron levels are ok now and hopefully they will stay that way. 

Thanks :)

Its strange cereals, bread and pasta has never been a problem.

As a baby I could feed him anything (spag bog, fish, mild curry) and he would eat it and get grumpy if I wasn't fast enough, but as soon as he was feeding himself...
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: emmy1978 on January 25, 2010, 00:21:15
Graaah-I know, it's crazy how their habits change. When my youngest was 2-3 she would eat raw pepper, courgette, sauce dishes,well, anything really. Now it's a different story and she hates party food because of all the sausage on offer!
she does try things though and loves her veg so I try not to fuss too much and hope she'll just grow out of it. My mum stressed loads over food and I still have things I won't eat to this day (white cabbage and egg white being the main two!)
;D
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: tlc on January 25, 2010, 13:33:34
Mortality, my son who is high functioning isn't swayed by peer pressure either.  At the age of 11, he is finally beginning to want to try a different range of foods. 
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 26, 2010, 19:05:20
Quote from: emmy1978 on January 25, 2010, 00:21:15
Graaah-I know, it's crazy how their habits change. When my youngest was 2-3 she would eat raw pepper, courgette, sauce dishes,well, anything really. Now it's a different story and she hates party food because of all the sausage on offer!
she does try things though and loves her veg so I try not to fuss too much and hope she'll just grow out of it. My mum stressed loads over food and I still have things I won't eat to this day (white cabbage and egg white being the main two!)
;D

I suppose I was a bit fussy too, when younger.

I hated it when mum gave me plum tomatoes (tinned) on soggy toast, I litterally couldnt stomach it, i still probabily couldnt.
However if you made those same tomatoes into a pasta sauce I would.
I cant stand grilled tomatoes or those on top of pizzas, give me a raw one and ill eat it no problem. Ketchup,? no problem. Heinz Tomato soup..yuck.

Onions was another one, raw or cooked, no, didnt like em, however pickled onions was a different matter.

I love cucumber, but not gherkins..

It's all to do with food textures I suppose.

My husband has similar ones, he doesnt like any peas except marrowfat ones.
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: emmy1978 on January 27, 2010, 11:46:44
It's hard to remember with kids that we all have our preferences-you get so caught up in wanting them to eat, be healthy and all that, we forget they might genuinely not like it!!
I thought as a child I hated veg but when i started cooking for myself i realised that you don't have to boil your veggies for 25 minutes on full heat!
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: chriscross1966 on January 27, 2010, 18:18:41
Quote from: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 16:48:36
We do give him fortified cereals and usually a glass of Ribena (vit C) for breakfast.
He went for his third blood test at the beginning of the month and we are hoping the results are better this time.
My son is Autisitc and unfortunately persuasion at this stage wont work, not even the promise of a tasty treat. :-\

Hmm... I've got Asperger's so I hope I can offer some advice. Have you had the child Psych try and unravel how he thinks yet?... The main difference between us auties and you neurotypicals is actually how the brain is wired, we have very different thought processes as a result. THese days I manage to knock along OK becasue I'm rationally aware of it. I'm willing to be he doesn't understand that yet. One thing you could try is getting him to grow stuf to eat... from memory there's a lot of iron in sprouting brassica seeds, so maybe mustard and cress?... I used to eat it by the fistful when I was young, if I'd grown it myself...and back then you'd have needed siege weponry to get a cabbage into my mouth.... indered I still can't stand spinach....

chrisc
Title: Re: Picky Eater
Post by: Mortality on January 29, 2010, 14:51:14
Quote from: chriscross1966 on January 27, 2010, 18:18:41
Quote from: Mortality on January 16, 2010, 16:48:36
We do give him fortified cereals and usually a glass of Ribena (vit C) for breakfast.
He went for his third blood test at the beginning of the month and we are hoping the results are better this time.
My son is Autisitc and unfortunately persuasion at this stage wont work, not even the promise of a tasty treat. :-\

Hmm... I've got Asperger's so I hope I can offer some advice. Have you had the child Psych try and unravel how he thinks yet?... The main difference between us auties and you neurotypicals is actually how the brain is wired, we have very different thought processes as a result. THese days I manage to knock along OK becasue I'm rationally aware of it. I'm willing to be he doesn't understand that yet. One thing you could try is getting him to grow stuf to eat... from memory there's a lot of iron in sprouting brassica seeds, so maybe mustard and cress?... I used to eat it by the fistful when I was young, if I'd grown it myself...and back then you'd have needed siege weponry to get a cabbage into my mouth.... indered I still can't stand spinach....

chrisc

He is going to be helping me with the garden this year, he has already planted 6 Broad beans and keeps peering hopefully at them.  ;D
He has also been helping me with the cooking and that has made him more adventurious.
Also the bribery is now working (sometimes) eat all your dinner and you can have X treat, sort. The eat all your peas and sweetcorn failed when he looked at it, then looked at me and said 'ill have it tomorrow' (the treat)

The Educational Psych has been working with him, but not really discussed food, at school it isnt a problem because he will eat his packed lunch.