The third world war could start if this was allowed to happen
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151591914
Hopefully this "march" will NOT be allowed. A friend in UK sent me this..........
I've just seen this on another website, the general feeling is ignore it, It won't happen, but don't fuel the topic by stirring up anti islamic feeling.
Of course they have civilian caualties which need repect. But a better way of remembrance should be thought of, as this will only alienate the law abiding muslim population. The press will not be able to contain theirselves, but if we don't bite they won't have a story.
Perfectly decent people of all races and religions die and suffer in wars not of their making.
Is any one convinced that the reason for the demonstration has anything to do with that ?
At least in this country people are free to demonstrate, they are going to score an own goal on that one.
A dignified silence of being absent is the best way for normal people to respond.
If nothing happens, there will be nothing to report.
I have just been invited by a "friend" on facebook to join a group protesting about it - I deleted it!
Possibly a publicity stunt by the Wooton Bassett tourist board. Doubt much else happens there!
Quote from: Poppy Mole on January 03, 2010, 17:31:11
I have just been invited by a "friend" on facebook to join a group protesting about it - I deleted it!
I joined it.
I wonder if we would be allowed to do a Christian peaceful demonstration march through the centre of Kabul. Guess not.
The guy organising it is an extremist who preaches hate and supports sharia law in this country.
Take a look at his website http://www.islam4uk.com/non-muslims (http://www.islam4uk.com/non-muslims) and then decide.
His group should be banned under race hatred laws, but the police are monitoring it for 'intelligence'.
Quote from: ACE on January 03, 2010, 09:17:00
I've just seen this on another website, the general feeling is ignore it, It won't happen, but don't fuel the topic by stirring up anti islamic feeling.
Quote from: ACE on January 03, 2010, 09:17:00
The press will not be able to contain theirselves, but if we don't bite they won't have a story.
Yep-pretty much what I think! Put it with the banning of the word Christmas and the building of a super-mosque in Kendal. ;D
reminder to self
"keep out of the right-wing / racist / bigotted arguments on here"
;)
I am really really angry with this intended "protest march".
I hope the people of Wooten Bassett keep away from the town on the day they intend the march, the whole of the march route cleared of people, shops/pubs closed complete and total blank of people to parade to!
Hopefully even the press will not be reporting it and the message should get through that Wooten Basset is a home for heroes not trouble makers.
Old Bird
:o
Quote from: tonybloke on January 04, 2010, 12:29:25
reminder to self
"keep out of the right-wing / racist / bigotted arguments on here"
;)
I would like to know what was right wing/ racist/ bigotted about this thread. ???
Quote from: ACE on January 04, 2010, 14:22:17
Quote from: tonybloke on January 04, 2010, 12:29:25
reminder to self
"keep out of the right-wing / racist / bigotted arguments on here"
;)
I would like to know what was right wing/ racist/ bigotted about this thread. ???
I thought your original post was very mature and the correct reaction Ace. I kept out of the thread because my presence in threads like this seems to fuel things so I did a quiet tonybloke. I think most people's posts on this thread have been like yours. ktlawson does put something totally irrelevant in - which matches what tonybloke posted. This is not Afghanistan and glad it isn't. The person responsible for the march is British trying to exercise his rights (hateful as they are) as a British citizen - I would expect that ultimately, the march will be banned - because, like Kabul, the police here do have that power.
ps the source of this thread - the march, is right wing and bigotted.
Cancelled by Islam4UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8451014.stm
As modelled by most of the posters in this thread, common sense has prevailed.
Quote from: redclanger on January 10, 2010, 22:39:28
Cancelled by Islam4UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8451014.stm
As modelled by most of the posters in this thread, common sense has prevailed.
What is 'most' all about, everybody posted how they felt about the situation, they are still allowed to do that, although some would like to see that privilege end.
Quote from: redclanger on January 05, 2010, 18:32:29
ps the source of this thread - the march, is right wing and bigotted.
How? The original source of this thread came from Islam4UK. Who were highlighting their feelings towards Britain being in Afghanistan, Knowing full well it would stir up everybody.
Quote from: redclanger on January 05, 2010, 18:32:29
I kept out of the thread because my presence in threads like this seems to fuel things
I wonder why. Just because people do not agree with your views you seem to feel you have the right to insult them and call them racists, right wing, bigotted, national front and any other popular buzzword that you and your tunnelled visioned pseudo intellectual types feel like throwing.
We are allowed our views and in this internet age we also come into contact with people we would normally not give the time of day too. So we are going to come across views that do not fit our mindset. I am honest about my way of life, I have always had it and nobody is ever going to change it. You stand more chance of p!ssing in the queens handbag, than you do of trying to bully me and millions of others to toe your line.
millions? just ask for a show of hands when the pc police are at lunch.
Yes i for one agree with that statement. well said.
Quote from: ACE on January 11, 2010, 08:31:31
Quote from: redclanger on January 10, 2010, 22:39:28
Cancelled by Islam4UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8451014.stm
As modelled by most of the posters in this thread, common sense has prevailed.
What is 'most' all about, everybody posted how they felt about the situation, they are still allowed to do that, although some would like to see that privilege end.
Quote from: redclanger on January 05, 2010, 18:32:29
ps the source of this thread - the march, is right wing and bigotted.
How? The original source of this thread came from Islam4UK. Who were highlighting their feelings towards Britain being in Afghanistan, Knowing full well it would stir up everybody.
Quote from: redclanger on January 05, 2010, 18:32:29
I kept out of the thread because my presence in threads like this seems to fuel things
I wonder why. Just because people do not agree with your views you seem to feel you have the right to insult them and call them racists, right wing, bigotted, national front and any other popular buzzword that you and your tunnelled visioned pseudo intellectual types feel like throwing.
We are allowed our views and in this internet age we also come into contact with people we would normally not give the time of day too. So we are going to come across views that do not fit our mindset. I am honest about my way of life, I have always had it and nobody is ever going to change it. You stand more chance of p!ssing in the queens handbag, than you do of trying to bully me and millions of others to toe your line.
millions? just ask for a show of hands when the pc police are at lunch.
I really cannot see what I have done to deserve that diatribe. I complemented you on being grown up (I suppose it was too much to expect it to last) and I referred to the march as being right wing and bigotted.
And I am sorry, but if views are right wing and racist, i cannot help that, nor can I make it not so. Nor will I be bullied into not pointing it out. And when you lose an argument, it is easy to call it pseudointellectual. I will not resort to insulting the arguments, I will just continue to win them.
Children,
If you do not behave it will smack bottoms.
Quote from: PurpleHeather on January 11, 2010, 14:42:43
Children,
If you do not behave it will smack bottoms.
shh you might encourage them ;)
He attempted to do the march yesterday, about 250-300 anti-march protesters turned up at very short notice.
He was arrested in Sainsbury's car park before he could start.
Protesting against extremists like Choudry is not right-wing.
If you investigate his group further, it is a front for a terrorist group, the name escapes me now.
Please don't assume everybody who is against terrorism and the militant islam are right wing.
Research what is going on in your towns, do you have no-go areas???
A lot of towns do, and not just at night.
The jihadists are grooming children under 10 for suicide bombing missions. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982399.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084 (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982399.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084)
Quote from: dtw on January 11, 2010, 17:02:12
He attempted to do the march yesterday, about 250-300 anti-march protesters turned up at very short notice.
He was arrested in Sainsbury's car park before he could start.
Protesting against extremists like Choudry is not right-wing.
If you investigate his group further, it is a front for a terrorist group, the name escapes me now.
Please don't assume everybody who is against terrorism and the militant islam are right wing.
Research what is going on in your towns, do you have no-go areas???
A lot of towns do, and not just at night.
The jihadists are grooming children under 10 for suicide bombing missions. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982399.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084 (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982399.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084)
Will people read what I put and not assume what I put. I put that the march was right wing - consequently the Muslim fundamentalists and Choudhary. I agree that not all people anti the march are right wing. I was anti the march. Trouble is, any organisation that is anti the march attracts right wingers - you only have to look at the Facebook group to see that - the group that I complemented Ace on ignoring - someone else who makes assumptions about me.
Religious fundamentalists (of all flavours) and the extreme right have lot in common. They are generally misogynist homophobic bigots who want a totalitarian state. I think we should all be concerned about the rise of fascism, whether this is from the BNP, Creationist Christians or any other religious fanatics who preach medieval justice, hate and intolerance.
Quote from: lewic on January 11, 2010, 18:36:37
Religious fundamentalists (of all flavours) and the extreme right have lot in common. They are generally misogynist homophobic bigots who want a totalitarian state. I think we should all be concerned about the rise of fascism, whether this is from the BNP, Creationist Christians or any other religious fanatics who preach medieval justice, hate and intolerance.
Good post!
Quote from: lewic on January 11, 2010, 18:36:37
Religious fundamentalists (of all flavours) and the extreme right have lot in common. They are generally misogynist homophobic bigots who want a totalitarian state. I think we should all be concerned about the rise of fascism, whether this is from the BNP, Creationist Christians or any other religious fanatics who preach medieval justice, hate and intolerance.
Yup, that's pretty much it, though funnily enough, Satanists are pretty easy going.
Quote from: lewic on January 11, 2010, 18:36:37
Religious fundamentalists (of all flavours) and the extreme right have lot in common. They are generally misogynist homophobic bigots who want a totalitarian state. I think we should all be concerned about the rise of fascism, whether this is from the BNP, Creationist Christians or any other religious fanatics who preach medieval justice, hate and intolerance.
#
Agree 100% with that assessment.
Quote from: lewic on January 11, 2010, 18:36:37
Religious fundamentalists (of all flavours) and the extreme right have lot in common. They are generally misogynist homophobic bigots who want a totalitarian state. I think we should all be concerned about the rise of fascism, whether this is from the BNP, Creationist Christians or any other religious fanatics who preach medieval justice, hate and intolerance.
yep, that's a good post!!
Quote from: redclanger on January 11, 2010, 18:03:11
someone else who makes assumptions about me.
Yes I misread your post, I was expecting the usual Dailymail bla bla bla. So I apologise for that mistake. But your patonising remarks about being adult, only reinforces the idea that you also make assumptions about me. We will never agree and it does not worry me and I doubt it worries you. We are different generations with different thoughts on how our country is being manipulated.
I am not happy with the whittling away with our traditions, customs and way of life. Why should I be pilloried because I feel that way. You want a brave new world, sorry but you are on to a loser.
Quote from: lewic on January 11, 2010, 18:36:37
Religious fundamentalists (of all flavours) and the extreme right have lot in common. They are generally misogynist homophobic bigots who want a totalitarian state. I think we should all be concerned about the rise of fascism, whether this is from the BNP, Creationist Christians or any other religious fanatics who preach medieval justice, hate and intolerance.
Fab post lewic-summed it up beautifully. :)
Quote from: ACE on January 11, 2010, 20:25:32
I am not happy with the whittling away with our traditions, customs and way of life.
I agree that it is sad-I only know what wassailing is because you discussed it here Christmas 2007-but this is not because of Islam or terrorism or soldiers-it is because Brits are not passing these things down to their kids-it's part of a problem within white British society that these things are no longer important to most people.
:(
I for one am glad this group has been banned I have watched our way of life change, and not for the better. and to me our soldiers who have died deserve the respect they get from this small town, and this Country.
June.
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/
Quote from: bridgehouse on January 12, 2010, 09:15:12
I for one am glad this group has been banned I have watched our way of life change, and not for the better. and to me our soldiers who have died deserve the respect they get from this small town, and this Country.
June.
I'm glad they are banned. Just like a fundamentalist Christian group would be in Kabul.
The Daily Mash (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/islam4uk-changes-name-to-brian-thompson-201001122371/) ;D