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Allotment Stuff => Allotment Movement => Topic started by: BornAgainGardener on December 07, 2009, 21:03:16

Title: How we got our plots
Post by: BornAgainGardener on December 07, 2009, 21:03:16
There are no allotments in our village. Spurred on by Hugh F Whatsisname I contacted the council asking them to make land available, as they are obliged to do. The wheels of local bureacracy then started to creak into motion and we waited.
As you know the seasons pass quite speedily and nothing really seemed to be happening.

We had the idea of writing to the local community newspaper, which is delivered free to every house in the village, just to explain what we were asking for.

Well, the response has been great. People have offered up their land for anyone who wants to use it. At least half of those who partitioned the council are now turning suburban lawns into allotments. The local council can procrastinate as much as they like and if they ever get round to helping out their elecorate - well, we'll see if we still need their help.

My advice to you all is this; put the word out, let people know what you want, you might be suprised at what happens.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: saddad on December 07, 2009, 22:28:36
Well done...  :)
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: tonybloke on December 07, 2009, 22:59:48
Woo Woo!! great news!! it's nice to hear some positive stories occassionally!! ;)
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: 1066 on December 07, 2009, 23:12:19
It's amazing what you get if you ask! Seriously well done and a good point to make  :)
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Squash64 on December 08, 2009, 06:03:04
Excellent news, well done for thinking of contacting the newspaper. Good luck with your plot.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Unwashed on December 08, 2009, 13:10:33
Hi BornAgain

I'm pleased you've got what you wanted, but it's very disappointing that your council have shirked their responsibility.  An allotment is much more than just somewhere to grow stuff and councils should be embracing their obligation to provide sufficient allotments enthusiastically because allotments are good for people and communities.  The Landshare model has some merit, but it doesn't have the social aspect.  Councils have all the powers they need to create new allotent sites and it's only a few inner-city councils that genuinely can't find suitable land.  We're being let down by our lazy local authorities and I'm not convinced that Landshare is helping.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: betula on December 08, 2009, 13:21:20
I agree it is a good outcome.

I do think the council should look at it's responsibilities laid down in law.

If 6 or more people want an allotment I think they are obliged to provide one.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: BornAgainGardener on December 08, 2009, 21:28:03
Thanks for your posts everybody.

The local authorities understand their obligations and don't even try to deny it. But they are glacially slow . .
I guess that they will get round to it one day. But in the meantime . . .

I don't really think of it as a 'landshare' type of scheme but more of a community gardening project. When allotments become available, and a number of sites have been identified, there will still be a demand for them. I'll certainly be in the queue.

Have a look at my blog and see what i'm up to.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: emmy1978 on December 09, 2009, 14:54:33
Well done you and I love your blog!
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: BornAgainGardener on December 09, 2009, 21:15:44
Quote from: emmy1978 on December 09, 2009, 14:54:33
Well done you and I love your blog!

Thank you, you're very kind.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: lottiedolly on December 16, 2009, 11:50:23
Well done guys
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: betula on December 16, 2009, 12:16:30
Our local Blooms gardening centre is offering Allotment plots ..................£5 a week.................... :-X
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Unwashed on December 16, 2009, 12:24:17
They have a Blooming nerve!  How big is the plot?

My council vote on Monday on a proposal for new tenants to pay £20/pole.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: betula on December 16, 2009, 12:29:08
Don't know how big ,they have little notices up all over saying Allotment plots £5 a week.Never bothered to enquire.One thing did occur to me,if I was stuck on the end of a long waiting list,would I be tempted?? ??? ???
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Digeroo on December 16, 2009, 12:46:37
I have some veg in my front garden it is not popular with some of the neighbours.

Quote£20 a pole
:
that will cut the waiting list down to size.  No waiting list - no more allotments  needed- very cunning plan.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: sjb on December 16, 2009, 14:16:07
hello can some one tell me the size a allotment should be and how much i should pay for each sizes  ???  ???
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Digeroo on December 16, 2009, 14:31:13
Hi sjb welcome to A4A.

There have been a number of threads on this topic and the answers are very variable.  I will try and find some links for you.  A standard size is 10 rods, which was calculated to be right to feed a family.  But a lot now are half or quarter.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: saddad on December 16, 2009, 14:50:50
Hi Sjb and welcome to A4A... someone not as technically challenged will probably provide a link to the threads...
As a warmer 300sq yards or ten poles is about £50 per annum... we pay £24 because we own the land so don't have to pay a landlord.

:)
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Digeroo on December 16, 2009, 14:58:47
Can't find the thread.  Can any one find it? 

I am on a private site they tend to be more expensive. I pay £45 for about 6 rods.

It also varies depending on what you get.  Eg Water, parking, toilets etc.  We get water and manure but no parking or toilets. 
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Digeroo on December 16, 2009, 15:04:12
Found it
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,54701.0.html

There was a vote type one as well which gave a good range.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: BAK on December 16, 2009, 15:28:21
I did a survey 2 years ago. The average for a 5 pole plot across the UK then was £22 although there was a huge variation in the individual figures (£1 to £100+).

I have seen 4 other (smaller) surveys that each pointed to an average figure of between £20 and £25 for 5 poles.

I am not aware of any official surveys. Some people quote NSALG figures but to my knowledge they date back to 1997-98.
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: Trevor_D on December 16, 2009, 16:05:18
We're a private site, too - but we have a landlord (the local church charity) to pay.

After much discussion on committee, we've just put a 5-pole plot up from £12 a year to £13 (plus £4 per member for insurance & NASLG affiliation, regardless of size of plot).

And I bet someone will complain!
Title: Re: How we got our plots
Post by: kingston boy on December 17, 2009, 18:12:11
Reading some threads is interesting as its brought out the difference in plot prices. In leafy surrey where i live the local council have decided to up the yearly rental by 12%. This takes a full plot, as they're known here, to a standard £69 for up to 250 sq mts, with concessions.
I got my plot in 1994 and another in 2006. In '94 i could pick the plot i wanted and where i wanted. The next i had to wait in line. Now theres a que of 46.How times change.
We have recently added another 9 x 100 sq mts plots ,with a compost area for the lazy ones, to help the overload.We also rent what were once unlettable plots free for one year as an incentive. It all helps and we did get a little assistance from the authority.