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Title: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: jimtheworzel on November 19, 2009, 17:13:57
AUSTRALIAN

OZZY

AMERICAN

YANK

CHINAMAN

CHINKY

SCOTCHMAN

JOCK

WELSHMAN

TAFFY

AND SO ON AND SO ON
BUT WHAT DO YOU CALL A MAN FROM

PAKISTAN

??????
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: elvis2003 on November 19, 2009, 17:26:43
speak for yourself on this one jim,i was brought up not to use any of those terms,thank god!
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Digeroo on November 19, 2009, 17:29:55
What about Whinging Poms?  I am not sure I like being called that.
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Fork on November 19, 2009, 17:36:44
You call him mate!......might get an extra bhaji with your takeaway then  ;D
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: betula on November 19, 2009, 17:57:26
What a crap post Jim.

I have only ever heard that term used in an offensive way.

If that is the best you can think of to post why bother? >:(
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: BarriedaleNick on November 19, 2009, 18:02:30
Well I'd try using his\her name.

Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!! - Quite a lot, actually!
Post by: Sholls on November 19, 2009, 18:11:04
Hmm, can 'o' worms.  ::)

For the record, if any Sassenach, or member of another ethnic group were brave enough to refer to me as a 'Jock' they'd be verbally disassembled. Swiftly!

My guess? The only 'alternative description' on that list that wouldn't result in uproar, or a sharp right-hook, is 'Aussie'.

Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: cornykev on November 19, 2009, 18:19:57
You tell em Jock, be careful with the verbal though, at 108 you'd probably wear yourself out.    :-X      ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: SamLouise on November 19, 2009, 18:23:27
Jim, what's your motive for this thread?  All seems a bit silly and unnecessary to me.  People will get hot under the collar and WW3 will start (again!)

Btw, the only one of those I've ever used is Yank.  Is that offensive?  I know it didn't used to be but it probably is now!
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Sholls on November 19, 2009, 18:23:57
Quote from: cornykev on November 19, 2009, 18:19:57
You tell em Jock, be careful with the verbal though, at 108 you'd probably wear yourself out.    :-X      ;D ;D ;D

Ah, Kev, as a Spurs supporter I'd have thought you'd have sympathy for us poor 'abused' minorities! :P ;) (I'll be in the corner sharpening my stick; my tongue doesn't need any assistance.  ;D )
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Kea on November 19, 2009, 18:24:17
Ok in NZ people of European descent are called Pakeha's....personally I object to this because originally it was a derogatory term and meant as one now it's taken as normal and used freely.

Pakistani...is the term you're looking for.

Sholls, you are incorrect because if you call a kiwi an Aussie you will get a sharp something...I'm quite fed up with being called an Aussie or even worse a South African!

You can always tell the ones who've got it wrong in the past the bring up the subject very nervously and err on the side of safety and actually ask you where you from.
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: betula on November 19, 2009, 18:28:13
I find it difficult to understand why people are encouraging this thread,it was clearly meant to be racist.

Seems to me anything goes on A4A these days. :(
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Sholls on November 19, 2009, 18:32:34
Quote from: Kea on November 19, 2009, 18:24:17
Sholls, you are incorrect because if you call a kiwi an Aussie you will get a sharp something...I'm quite fed up with being called an Aussie or even worse a South African!
Oh, Kea, I'd never dream of calling a New Zealander an Aussie... I've known too many of the former! I can even tell the difference between north & south island accents; sadly, I suspect I'm in a minority. ;)
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Unwashed on November 19, 2009, 18:33:54
Yank isn't likely to be taken offencively, but depending on where your American is from your ignorance might just embarass you.

It's a funny thing, but most of those "nationality" terms are offencive, but I'd be comfortable calling a New Zealander a Kiwi, or an Austrailian an Aussie more as a term of respect.  I think that might be because of all the nations of the world, I'd say those two are the ones that traditionally the English have genuine respect for.
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: jimtheworzel on November 19, 2009, 18:48:09
I HAVE ASKED FOR THIS TREAD TO BE REMOVED.
SORRY IF I UPSET YOU PEOPLE IT WAS A STUPID POST
I AM NOT A RACIST AND NEVER HAVE BEEN
I CAN ONLY SAY SORRY AGAIN IF I UPSET PEOPLE
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: elvis2003 on November 19, 2009, 18:49:27
fair dos jim
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Borlotti on November 19, 2009, 18:51:12
Well my OH calls me retarded, not retired and I think it is quite funny, but thinking about it I suppose it is offensive (not to me but could be if used in the wrong way). I call him a fat b...ard sometimes. I was taught 'sticks and stones can hurt my bones, but words can never hurt me'.  But reading about the bullying at school that is not true.  I suppose that it is the way it is said, and I do get a bit confused about what is correct and what is not, and would never want to offend anyone.  My son is a chippie, carpenter, so to abbreviate some words is not too terrible.  I don't really think it is racist to abbreviate some words, as I am great friends with the Pakistan people in my local shop, or whatever nationality they are, but do say going to the local shop now.
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Unwashed on November 19, 2009, 18:51:51
I thought it was a reasonable question to ask.  It's a shame if we can't discuss difficult topics.
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: betula on November 19, 2009, 18:53:24
Get real unwashed :(
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: SamLouise on November 19, 2009, 19:17:18
Quote from: jimtheworzel on November 19, 2009, 18:48:09
I HAVE ASKED FOR THIS TREAD TO BE REMOVED.
SORRY IF I UPSET YOU PEOPLE IT WAS A STUPID POST
I AM NOT A RACIST AND NEVER HAVE BEEN
I CAN ONLY SAY SORRY AGAIN IF I UPSET PEOPLE

Indeed you did Jim, and very gracious of you that was too.  I can't actually delete a thread I can only lock it or move it so I'll leave it be for now in the hope that peeps will play nicely without the need for tin hats and sand bags :)
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: jimtheworzel on November 19, 2009, 22:35:48
thanks sam
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: Kea on November 20, 2009, 10:55:23
Quote from: Sholls on November 19, 2009, 18:32:34
Quote from: Kea on November 19, 2009, 18:24:17
Sholls, you are incorrect because if you call a kiwi an Aussie you will get a sharp something...I'm quite fed up with being called an Aussie or even worse a South African!
Oh, Kea, I'd never dream of calling a New Zealander an Aussie... I've known too many of the former! I can even tell the difference between north & south island accents; sadly, I suspect I'm in a minority. ;)


That's Ok Sholls, I was really just warning everyone that if they weren't sure to find out first.....people always assume Kiwi's are Aussies but the accent is quite different though Aucklander's tend to sound like Aussies...and behave a bit like them :-X
Even I've mistaken people from Auckland as being Aussies...but I didn't say so just thought it.

It is very safe to call NZer's Kiwis and Australian's  Aussies but I don't use the word Pom unless the person is very annoying because I believe it is meant as a derogatory term.

I believe Pakistani's used to refer to themselves using the term Jim's post suggested but didn't say, until it was made into a derogatory term but I'm not sure of the history there.
Title: Re: WHATS IN A NAME!!
Post by: GrannieAnnie on November 20, 2009, 11:22:39
I don't mind being called a Yank and your post got me wondering about the origins of it and I found this on Wikipedia which summarizes the distinctions ( attributed to E.B. White):

        To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
        To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
        To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
        To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
        To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
        And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

or who still uses an outhouse."