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Title: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 25, 2009, 03:50:22
I will growing wheat again this season so to go for fair prize and to make my own bread again.
Has anyone else grown there own grain or wheat for making bread.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: amphibian on October 25, 2009, 06:00:36
Never, but then we don't have enough space; if I had enough space I'd probably grow spelt.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Flighty on October 25, 2009, 07:53:33
A rather academic question for many of us here in the UK as our allotments and gardens are far too small to even contemplate trying that!
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Little Bee on October 25, 2009, 08:08:28
I disagree and do not think it's a pointless question,infact it's a very interesting question because it's something different to grow and you don't need acres of space to grow it,just a small area after all you are growing it for yourself and not the nation  ;)

I am always looking for a new challenge and will give it a go.
Will be good to grow some of my own produce for my chickens too ;)
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: earlypea on October 25, 2009, 08:13:55
I will, more for interest than sustenance though.

This year I accidentally grew amaranth (for the leaves but it bolted) - which is threshed but waiting for the right wind to winnow.  I think I've got a good bagful out of several plants.

Next year - I'll grow a bit of quinoa and some buckwheat.

I've always loved cooking and eating different types of grain and want to see if they taste any different home grown and it's just interesting to see how they grow too.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 25, 2009, 17:06:51
flighty how much area do think you need to grow enough wheat to make 5 lbs of flour?
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Baccy Man on October 25, 2009, 18:05:32
Quotehow much area do think you need to grow enough wheat to make 5 lbs of flour?

Based on average yields in the UK an area 4' x 8' would produce approximately 5lbs of flour, it would then have to be threshed which is very time consuming & finally ground which is only possible if you have a grain mill or know of a commercial mill who will grind it for you. I have grown it before & won't be bothering again as flour is cheap & grain cheaper still, I can think of better uses for any available growing space I have.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 25, 2009, 18:47:25
beccyman you incorrect about threshing being time consuming you just need to know the easy way.
as for grinding you can use spice grinder instead.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: redimp on October 25, 2009, 19:20:59
I am going to be growing barley which I shall malt and roast and add to my mates hops to see what the resultant beer is like.  How's that?

If I get round to it that is.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Flighty on October 26, 2009, 07:56:58
I agree with what Baccyman has said, especially the last sentence!
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: reddyreddy on October 26, 2009, 08:12:18
Quote from: plainleaf2 on October 25, 2009, 18:47:25
beccyman you incorrect about threshing being time consuming you just need to know the easy way.
as for grinding you can use spice grinder instead.

a SPICE GRINDER??? For 5lbs of flour???!!!!  :o
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Columbus on October 26, 2009, 08:49:36
I grow lots of beans for drying on enormous bean fences. I let them dry on the plant. This way I can preserve a crop with no energy inputs, unlike freezing, pickling and jamming etc.
Wheat or grains for drying would also preserve food for long periods without energy inputs, unless you milled it, but you could sprout it as food.

Unfortunately as pointed out the area of land needed to raise a crop of wheat makes this unrealistic for most of us. Maybe other types of grain could be raised in small amounts and then used to enhance home made bread?

Col
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Baccy Man on October 26, 2009, 10:18:20
Quote from: plainleaf2
beccyman you incorrect about threshing being time consuming you just need to know the easy way.
Rather than just telling me I am wrong it could be helpful if you expanded on what you believe to be the correct way to thresh wheat, that way anyone who is intrested in growing wheat would be able to learn from your experience.

Quote from: plainleaf2
as for grinding you can use spice grinder instead.
I assume you are joking about the spice grinder as it would never give a consistent or satisfactory result & would only be able to process very small quantities of grain at a time.
FWIW I do have a grain mill which is used on a regular basis for grinding maize which I grow & various other grains I purchase so I haven't given much thought to alternate grinding methods.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: qahtan on October 26, 2009, 16:16:02
 
I think you would want some thing larger than a 'spice grinder" for your grain.
I buy  organic hard wheat berries and mill/grind them as I need. but I use the grain mill that is an attachment on my UK Kenwood mixer. It does a good job, well good enough for me.
It is not good to mill whole wheat flour to store, as it starts to go rancid very quickly. This is why many people say they don't like whole wheat bread...

                   qahtan.                            spice grinder,,,,,Q Q
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Digeroo on October 26, 2009, 18:09:06
I grew some by accident a few years ago which came in a batch of mature.  Managed to course grind it in a liquidizer and add it to a bread mix.  Result not very successful gave the rest to the G-pigs.

But if I want a little bit of fresh wheat I think I could go and do a bit of gleaning - the machines never get right into the corners, instead of using up precious space on my lottie. 
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 26, 2009, 19:53:25
yes i was joking about spice grinder. I use coffee grinder.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: qahtan on October 26, 2009, 20:29:16
 That's just as bad,
How much grain at a time , a cupful....  and can you vary the grind????

qahtan
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Jeannine on October 28, 2009, 04:21:58
I have just seen this and have been trying to picture someone  grinding wheat in a coffee or spice grinder, surely this is a joke or a typo maybe. Yonks years ago when I did this regularly even my heavy duty mill  would get a tad warm if I tried to do too much at a time.

I have an excellent coffee grinder but I think it would blow up if I tried to grind enough  wheat to grow even 1 loaf of bread.

2 tablespoons at a time maybe, it sounds completely off the wall to me,

I think our leg is being pulled here

Come on fess up, this is a bit of kidology,right XX Jeannine
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: plainleaf2 on October 28, 2009, 05:56:06
it no joke : Jeannine. when can find the link i will post it.
Title: Re: will you be growing you own grain in 2010
Post by: Jeannine on October 28, 2009, 18:59:35
Thank you, I would appreciate that XX Jeannine