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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: pigeonseed on August 31, 2009, 22:01:34

Title: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: pigeonseed on August 31, 2009, 22:01:34
I've never had very tasty home-grown tomatoes. I can't change the British climate, but what else could I do to make them taste richer?

This year I grew carbon (photos were smooth, round, almost black - my carbon are big pink lumpy beefsteak!) and gardener's delight - both chosen for their reputed taste.

But the GD are bland and watery, no depth of flavour, no richness. The carbon are better but still not great.

Should I be feeding them more? singing to them?  :)
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: saddad on August 31, 2009, 22:03:14
Light intensity is meant to be the best factor... have you had many really sunny days?  :-\
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: manicscousers on August 31, 2009, 22:08:54
we grew black krim this year, Ray's the tomato buff and reckons it's the best he's tasted  ;D
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: pigeonseed on August 31, 2009, 22:13:54
Quote from: saddad on August 31, 2009, 22:03:14
Light intensity is meant to be the best factor... have you had many really sunny days?  :-\

I thought this year we were doing ok - we've had a lot of sunshine. But the garden is north facing, so could that have made a difference?
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: saddad on August 31, 2009, 22:18:50
Yes... even on the South Coast... can you not find one south facing bit...  :)
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: ajb on August 31, 2009, 22:21:16
they do need direct sun for a good part of the day (at least 4-5 hours). Also, don't over-water them as too much water leads to weak flavour.  The only feed I've given mine are organic potato/tomato feed granules mixed into the compost.

Being the chilly North I grew early varieties only this year: Legend (really good beef-steak type) and Glacier (small and sweeet/tangy) on the sunniest bit of the patio.
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: rosebud on August 31, 2009, 22:33:26
 I have to say i have grown the tastiest toms, ever this year.
I brought some beefsteak seeds back from Italy, & they are superb.
Lorna, saw them how lovely they looked & tasted divine.  The GD were so very tasty i cannot remember them being that good in previous years, our greenhouse is south facing so it must be all that sun. ;D
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: amphibian on August 31, 2009, 23:38:17
Too much water, in my experience, is the most common cause of bland, mushy/watery and tasteless tomatoes. That and cultivar choice, some varities just aren't good tasters, though this is a subjective thing of course, I like the meaty tomatoes, eaten slightly underripe to impart a complex flavour from the acid hints. Others like a very ripe tomato, sweet and juicy, others sharp acidic toms.

This year tomatoes have been great tasters, especially Japanese Black Trifele, just fantastic.
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: tim on September 01, 2009, 06:37:36
Yes - 'they' say that, especially with Cherry varieties, go easy on water.
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: realfood on September 01, 2009, 19:35:32
The variety is the most important factor, followed by sun and plenty of nutrients.
As usual, my top tasters from the greenhouse are sungold and sun cherry premium.
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: pigeonseed on September 01, 2009, 21:22:42
Although it's a north facing garden, it seems to get a lot of sun. But pehaps just not quite enough.

I don't think it's over-watering, I haven't watered them at all for weeks as we get the odd bit of rain and they seem happy (happy? well you know what I mean!)

maybe I should be more generous with feeding them next year as well.
Title: Re: what gives tomatoes flavour
Post by: amphibian on September 01, 2009, 22:54:50
I feed my tomatoes very little and get good flavour. I think variety is really the key, above all else.