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Title: Potato yields
Post by: allaboutliverpool on August 24, 2009, 16:39:11
I grew 4 (8ft x 4ft)  beds of potatoes this year, ten to a bed and the results are as follows.

The Pentland Javelin were started on the 12th June and the last root dug on the 22nd, a deliberate policy to get fresh daily earlies. The flavour was a little disappointing, I thought they were a bit watery and I will not grow them again.

On the 23rd June I started digging the other 3 varieties, despite knowing that they could be dug much later, and by 30th July all were dug, some eaten, and the rest in storage.

I have lost a large proportion to blight and slugs etc in previous years by leaving them in too long to get a heavy yield.

Pentland Javelin (First early) average 557 grams per plant.

Cara (Late maincrop) average 2044 grams per plant

Nicola (Early maincrop) average 2170 grams per plant

Charlotte (Second early) average 1804 grams per plant.

The really good news is that a total of 5 potatoes had a small slug hole in them, the bad news is that I wonder if the fact that I sprinkled slug pellets into the trenches when I planted them was the reason for the improvement over previous years when as many as a half have been decimated by slugs.

I have about 40Kg in storage and next year I will repeat the slug pellet trick.

As can be seen from my web page I had high yields from Bonnie and will try them again next year and perhaps leave them a little longer as the undamaged ones stored superbly.

http://www.allaboutliverpool.com/allaboutallotments_Vegetables_potatoes.html

The deeply dug, manured beds are now growing leeks.

Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Kea on August 24, 2009, 22:47:51
My Maris Bard I have decided just to dig and discard...too many slug holes. I have heard charlotte is not so prone to slug attack?

Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: amphibian on August 24, 2009, 23:31:38
Spuds have been almost slug free this year.

Don't know if it is due to a change of varieties, but I did use those organic slug pellet things. Maybe it's down to them.

To be honest, slugs have not been a big problem for me this year, plenty of snails, but not slugs. Snails are so much easier to deal with.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: 1066 on August 25, 2009, 07:27:06
My Charlottes and some of my Nicola have been slugged this year, Charlottes more so. So maybe trying slug pellets in the trenches is worth a try as the Charlottes were so tasty.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: tomatoada on August 25, 2009, 09:11:36
When do you put down the slug pellets please?  You say you put it in the trenches, so is that when you first earth up?  I had a problem with slugs on my Picasso.   I was very pleased with the amount I harvested.  One potato weighed 1lb 8 1/2 oz es.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: allaboutliverpool on August 25, 2009, 09:25:04
When planting, I dug the trench, put in plenty of horse manure, then Growmore and fish blood and bone and then slug pellets both on the manure and on the heaped up soil. I then mixed up the manure, pellets and fertiliser before placing the potatoes into position and then covered it all up. The pellets on the heaps of earth got well mixed in.

Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: tomatoada on August 25, 2009, 09:41:34
Many thanks.  I think I can work that out.  Have put it in my " do in 2010 notes".
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Ishard on August 25, 2009, 16:13:31
I have cropped my first tyre structure with PFA in and from 3 half spuds as seed, horse manure, straw and top soil and 3 tyres high I got 15lbs of spuds.

Im very, very impressed with growing spuds in tyres and am wondering now what to do with the other predicted 460lbs of PFA!!!
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: artichoke on August 27, 2009, 20:26:30
"I had a problem with slugs on my Picasso. "

Of all my potato varieties, Picasso potatoes are the most damaged by slugs and other things. I will never grow them again. I planted 250 seed potatoes of about 8 varieties, and the Picasso are the most useless.

I swear by Charlotte and Desiree.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Trevor_D on August 27, 2009, 20:43:40
My Picasso have been brilliant. Just finished lifting 20 tubers-worth - the only potato with any damage was the one I put my fork through! And plenty of a really decent size. Should see us through the winter.

Desiree have produced a large crop of mainly small to medium size tubers - disappointing compared to previous years.

Charlotte much the same.

Roseval doing well, but not as good as last year.

But, all told, I don't think I've had more than half a dozen potatoes with slug damage!

And Lady Chrystl - which has, until now, been very reliable - was a bit of a non-event this year.

Win some, lose some....
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: davyw1 on August 28, 2009, 20:01:30
Took the last of my Nadine out today about 12 tubers


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On average per tuber

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The loose one are what i damaged when digging them out or have slight slug damege. Over all not a bad result

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Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: amphibian on August 30, 2009, 23:13:11
I have had truly spectacular yields from Salad Blue, though they have a lot of scab. From today's dig I yielded 15kg off two seed tubers.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: artichoke on August 31, 2009, 10:35:53
Has anyone grown a Sarpo variety?

http://www.landscapejuice.com/2009/08/new-sarpo-superspuds-lead-the-way-in-low-carbon-gardening.html

I know I bought a few to try, but my labelling is hopeless. However, among all my patches on two plots, only one patch is still growing away strong and green, so it could be that - haven't reached it yet.

What do they taste like? Is it worth going over to them because of the blight resistance?

All my other varieties have completely lost their haulms, whether to blight or old age I don't know (been away for a month) but the potatoes below (apart from Picasso....) are fine.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Kea on September 01, 2009, 18:31:38
I don't think I'll bother with potatoes next year. Mine are well laced with slug holes and I'm just throwing them away.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Flighty on September 01, 2009, 18:36:57
Kea my maincrop Cara have been likewise slugged as well. I'm thinking of planting just earlies and second earlies which were okay this year.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: cornykev on September 01, 2009, 18:59:30
My Rocket produced very quickly, too quickly for new potatoes, the first half a dozen meals were heaven then as the spuds got bigger I chipped them and did OK, some slug damage but a good yield.
Lady Christl, again nice at the start then chipped them and still have some in storage, no slug damage but smaller yields.
NOTE:    Less earlies next year.
Kestrels, one scabbed and one with slug damage, not nearly as big as previous years, but still my favourite and will do them next year for the fourth year running.
Not sure if they should have had more water as we had a dryer growing season. :-\
First time with Ratte, they are very small so far, but loads more to dig out.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: pigeonseed on September 01, 2009, 21:30:29
weird I've never had slug damage in potatoes. I wonder if it's because I've always had allotments in rather dry locations, and also never treated my potatoes well, never given them good  rich moisture-retaining soil. So it's all a bit dry and dusty for slugs.

Or maybe they're too busy eating everything else...
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: hippydave on September 01, 2009, 22:33:05
ive had my first sarpo tonight, they dont boil very well as i found they broke up very easily, i didnt find anything wrong with the taste as others have found but they just keep growing and i have spuds nearly 10" long but the bigger ones seem to be hollow and they do get very scabby but the yeilds were very high so ive now dug them all because they did not seem to be dying off, they were the only ones not to fully secome to blight but i did get the odd blighted tuber, i will see how they store and see whether or not to grow them again. one of the other plot holders grew some i think were called marquee or markey and they looked fantastic a good size and no scab with very little slug or wireworm damage.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: amphibian on September 01, 2009, 22:53:31
Quote from: pigeonseed on September 01, 2009, 21:30:29
weird I've never had slug damage in potatoes. I wonder if it's because I've always had allotments in rather dry locations, and also never treated my potatoes well, never given them good  rich moisture-retaining soil. So it's all a bit dry and dusty for slugs.

Or maybe they're too busy eating everything else...

I have bone dry soil and am terrible at watering, I have plenty of scab, which is superficial and bothers me not a jot, but no slug damage.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Digeroo on September 01, 2009, 23:44:10
Quotebut no slug damage
Allotment ok but slugs a huge problem in the garden.  Once grew potatoes under a black plastic sheet and ended up with only two without slug damage.

If you put one in the microwave with a slug in it the smell is appalling.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: 1066 on September 02, 2009, 06:54:09
Quote from: Digeroo on September 01, 2009, 23:44:10
Quotebut no slug damage
Allotment ok but slugs a huge problem in the garden.  Once grew potatoes under a black plastic sheet and ended up with only two without slug damage.

If you put one in the microwave with a slug in it the smell is appalling.

eeewwwwwww !
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: artichoke on September 02, 2009, 10:34:32
"ive had my first sarpo tonight, they dont boil very well as i found they broke up very easily"

Thanks for that report, hippydave, it confirms my suspicions. But I have already ordered 120 so I'll either love them or loathe them next year. Maybe steamed or mashed or roasted is the answer.

I'm still digging perfectly good potatoes from under the ?blighted tops.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: delboy on September 02, 2009, 11:03:51
Epicure were tasteless but not slugged

Kestrel were magnificent and 1/25 slugged or whatever

King Edwards also brilliant with minor damage

Sante 25% had wireworm/slug damage but otherwise monsters

Anya were 20-25% damaged in some way.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: amphibian on September 02, 2009, 22:30:11
I know I keep going on a bout Salad Blue, but we chipped some this weekend and my oh my they make good chips. Crispy puffs of air. Can't wait to roast them.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: grawrc on September 02, 2009, 22:50:09
Lady Christl were Ok but not as good as previous years. My newbies for this year: Belle de Fontenay was spectacular , beautiful and delish. I have a sackful still to go through. International Kidney - nice but not good enough to really impress me. I lifted my Kestrel today and they are unbelievable. Huge but tasty. I had to get my lads to help me lifting the sacks they were so heavy. Also some Picasso. The slugs were circling the Kestrel but despite late lifting they were virtually untouched.
So next year I'm going for Lady Christl, Belle de Fontenay, Kestrel and Picasso. That will be the first time I haven't tried something new.

The beds were manured last year and this year I built them up with mushroom compost and my own compost. I think that has probably helped, breaking down the clay and allowing the soil to drain freely.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: Tulipa on September 02, 2009, 22:55:12
I too had a smaller yield from Lady Christl than normal so am really glad to read other reports of it too, but sorry we all had less.  I will continue grow them next year though as they were still worth growing.  Like Grawrc I was not impressed particularly by International Kidney, nice flavour but small yield for the space they took up.  My Desiree I haven't started digging up yet, hopefully this weekend.

T.
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: pigeonseed on September 13, 2009, 14:01:02
I can never remember what I've grown. I know one of the rows was Bonnie (Bonny?) but the others I don't know. I'm annoyed I wrote down what I planted, where but lost the bit of paper!

I loved some of the types, and others I liked less. But which ones??!!

maybe next year... ::)
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: cornykev on September 13, 2009, 20:06:41
Ratte were a bit disappointing, plenty of spuds but very small.
About four plants were slugged but the rest were OK.
But so many small ones that were hardly worth bothering with.
So thats Rocket and Kestrel again next year, but will have to find a different main crop.  ???  :-\  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: chriscross1966 on September 13, 2009, 22:54:29
Quote from: Digeroo on September 01, 2009, 23:44:10
Quotebut no slug damage
Allotment ok but slugs a huge problem in the garden.  Once grew potatoes under a black plastic sheet and ended up with only two without slug damage.

If you put one in the microwave with a slug in it the smell is appalling.

Nemesys kept the slugs off my under plastic spuds but the yield wasn't great... that said the husbandry consisted of cut cross in plastic, lift out spade of soil, drop in spud, mix soil with spade of manure and dump on the hole... ignore for a few months.....

chrisc
Title: Re: Potato yields
Post by: kt. on September 13, 2009, 23:02:42
I planted 27kg of spuds (Pentland Javelin, Kestrel, Majestic and Desiree).  Had a return of 100-125kg.  Can't narrow it down much more as we started harvesting the earlies as we wanted them for the plate from June.  We have about 70kg total left in storage.