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Title: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 16, 2009, 19:47:57
When we have our June Open Day (first Sunday) we nearly always have loads of unsold tomatoes (plants) ... no surprise this year as it was so wet we had very few customers...

If we were to have an earlier "sale" of specifically heritage tomatoes and associated "greenhouse" plants eg Aubergines/peppers/chilli/melons etcetera
When would be the best time in May?
I think we miss out because people with greenhouses have planted them up by the start of June...
If we put it in through the NGS would the £3 entry fee put people off...  they could still tour the site... or should we "go it alone"

:-\

As part of a seed audit today I counted 45 varieties of tomato... mostly heritage... and I've been trying to cut down.  :-[
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: small on August 16, 2009, 20:39:40
I'd favour an early date, I like to know what I've got. This year was my first visit to LLAA and Next year I shall leave more room in my greenhouse.....
The NGS fee wouldn't put me off, but neither would I not come if it  wasn't official, if you see what I mean.
Are you selling anything at the September Open day?
You are having one, aren't you?
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: manicscousers on August 16, 2009, 20:50:10
ours is the first bank holiday in may..don't do it then, we wouldn't be able to come  :o
the money wouldn't put us off but you know that  ;D
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 16, 2009, 21:02:53
Yes Small.... but it depends on what we have.. CFBeans and Damsons are looking likely..   ;D
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Sholls on August 16, 2009, 21:48:54
Well, I live far too far away to visit :( but what about the second Saturday or Sunday in May? The early May Bank Holiday weekend is generally quite a busy one for most people, so the following weekend might be a better bet.

Out of interest have you considered selling your surplus on eBay or via your lottie web site? Personally, I'd be more inclined to buy plants from a not-for-profit rather than line the pockets of a commercial organisation (whether that be a private individual or a DIY/garden centre chain). Also, if you're offering heritage varieties there is a good chance that anyone searching for info on the variety will come across your site/listing.  8)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 16, 2009, 23:10:52
Nice Idea sholls, but I think I'd like to avoid the "mail-order" scenario...  :-\
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: grannyjanny on August 17, 2009, 20:04:46
It wouldn't put us off if we had to pay an entry fee & OH would be delighted not to have the propagator going ;D ;D ;D. Would you take advance orders or would it be pot luck?
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: plot51A on August 17, 2009, 20:19:30
Agree with grannyjanny - would be very happy to put in an advance order, am trying to cut down on propagator use and this year ordered my toms online from Simpsons - would much prefer to get them from you  :D Any chance???? If I knew for sure I was going to get them would be happy to stick with your June date and your  NGS event - all my toms are grown outdoors, no greenhouse or polytunnel.
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Sinbad7 on August 17, 2009, 21:19:18
But saddad you could do the mail order thing on the rainy days  ;D

£3 entrance fee sounds fine if I was on my own but if I had to pay for a couple more people I wouldn't be so keen.
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 17, 2009, 21:42:21
Under 16's get in Free... so we expect adults to be able to pay for themselves... we don't keep it it goes to the NGS and on to charities like Macmillan...

I can certainly do pre-orders... we made more on pre and post sales this year as the June day was such a washout...
Most of my melons and watermelons didn't sell  :'( I ended up composting most of them...
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: 1066 on August 18, 2009, 07:31:24
I guess it depends on who your market is, who comes to your sales and who buys and what sells best?
By the sounds of it, and having looked at some of your pics/posts, the quality is certainly high and prices very reasonable so I'm sure that anyone who knows their onions (no pun intended!) would be interested in buying your plants.

Maybe you could extend your advertising - links to other websites, local press coverage??? But then you probably do all that anyway!

I also think the idea of a smaller sale earlier on in the year, selling more specific stuff i.e. tender plants or greenhouse plants or heritage varieties is a good idea, if I lived in the area and I knew there was a good plant sale I'd definietly come along  :)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 18, 2009, 11:09:18
Thanks for that 1066... we have a committee meeting at the end of the month and the NGS forms have to be in by the 4th of Sept... so I need as much opinion as possible to support my arguments..  :-\
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: 1066 on August 18, 2009, 11:39:42
Good luck with the meeting  :)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Hyacinth on August 18, 2009, 13:03:47
Too far away for me to attend, but I deffo support your idea of an earlier date as, as you've written, come June most peeps will have already got their ops up and running,  leaving scope for maybe only one or two impulse buys?

£3 entrance fee? Might be steep if you want to attract browsers to your Day. I've been reading Betty's takings at her Summer Fayre and the £255 total of voluntary donations seems v. good. I also like the idea of two/three specified causes which the money will benefit.
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 18, 2009, 15:49:35
Thanks for the Input Hyacinth...  :)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Squash64 on August 18, 2009, 16:41:07
Ours was on May 16th this year (as you know  ;)) and quite a lot of people came, despite the rain.

All our 'greenhouse' plants sold well but we could have done with a lot more squash and runner beans.

We don't charge admission because I don't think our locals would pay to come in!
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: manicscousers on August 18, 2009, 16:55:21
we would definitely put in a pre order, made a big difference this year  :)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: shirlton on August 18, 2009, 17:23:11
Under 16's get in Free... Will you be doing a reduced rate for OAP's. ;D  Speaking of Bettyy's open day. Ower Tone put a quid in 2 donation buckets. I think if you are supporting a good cause then folks will donate more willingly if they know where the money is going. P.S. I want some of your damsons cos my new tree has only 9 fruit on it :(
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 18, 2009, 17:49:38
I keep trying to charge OAP's more... as they have more time to enjoy it..
A the moment you can have a bucketful of Damsons... (No they aren't ripe yet so don't panic!)  :)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Deb P on August 18, 2009, 17:54:31
There might be some greengages too.....I can't keep up with the tree on my plot! ;D

Could we do the earlier open day with just donations (like Betty's one ) to the NGS? ??? That way we could get the publicity but not put people off with the standard admission charge?
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: shirlton on August 18, 2009, 18:00:46
It would be worth a try. You may find that you do better just having donations
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 18, 2009, 18:22:00
Well I could ask but I doubt it....
:-X
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: 1066 on August 18, 2009, 18:24:46
Saddad, what would the objections be to a donation instead of a fixed price? As from Debs' day they did very well on the donation front. Trying to help you get your arguments ready......  ;)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 18, 2009, 18:27:50
Not my problem, but the NGS's... if we went "independent" we could charge less or go for just donations...  :-X
Don't want to fall out with the NGS though...  :)
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Squash64 on August 18, 2009, 18:31:04
Quote from: saddad on August 18, 2009, 18:27:50
Not my problem, but the NGS's... if we went "independent" we could charge less or go for just donations...  :-X
Don't want to fall out with the NGS though...  :)

What is the advantage of going with the NGS?  Publicity?
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 18, 2009, 20:09:56
Partly...
but on a personal level there is the ticket to other "yellow book" gardens and a complimentary NT card (Don't use that as a member but others on the C. do)
:-X
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 20, 2009, 18:26:30
Any last suggestions before I let this slide off into the ether...  :-\
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: Squash64 on August 20, 2009, 18:57:11
Quote from: saddad on August 20, 2009, 18:26:30
Any last suggestions before I let this slide off into the ether...  :-\

Could you have your early plant sale without the NGS and do it through them for the one in September?
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 20, 2009, 19:27:10
We aren't intending to give up the June Open Day... but add a specialist plant day earlier for heritage toms and other tender plants like squash, aubergines, peppers, chilles and so on...  :-\
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: shirlton on August 20, 2009, 19:32:02
Just do it Saddad, you know you want to.We would come to buy our stuff from you such as Toms and squash (not sharksfin). Twould be an expensive trip though if we had to pay 3 quid to come in to buy our plants from you.
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: 1066 on August 21, 2009, 07:55:12
What is there to lose from trying?

Good luck
1066
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: saddad on August 26, 2009, 19:53:26
General concensus was another Open Day on Sun May 9th.. independent of NGS just for plant sales.. of toms/squash and the like... with either a 50p entry or just donation... but without opening the full site for "tours"
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: manicscousers on August 26, 2009, 20:12:46
remind me next year, I'll put an order in for our site  ;D
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: 1066 on August 27, 2009, 06:30:52
that'll be a result then Saddad  :D
Title: Re: Opinion required
Post by: plot51A on August 27, 2009, 08:52:20
In the diary!