Recently on freecycle I have seen pets advertised. I am always unhappy about this. Last night I couldn't believe it. Someone had an 8month American bull terrier advertised. I googled ABT rescue & sent them an email with the details. He said it would only go to a good home but it had to be done quickly as he had split from his girlfriend & couldn't take it home with him. I am alone in thinking this shouldn't happen on freecycle.
There are lots of things happening with animals on the net. Rabbits and other animals are free. Some are even sold for food for snakes. When it comes to giving away a dog like a pit bull then it could become a very dangerous situation.
I may be wrong Shirl but I think pit bull & American bull are 2 different breeds. Hope so.
yep no live animals are allowed to be posted for either offering/ wanting on my local freecycle.
The owners of the individual Freecycle sites have discretion to switch on/off a number of rules defined by Freecycle Central. One of those rules is the Freecycling of animals. The groups that I deal with are pretty evenly split between allowing and not allowing it. One group offered members a vote on it a while back and the result was to allow it to continue. I suppose it's no different than putting a card in a shop window or placing an ad in a local newspaper.
My local group doesn't allow it.
This is totally against the grain with me I don't even like pet shops selling dogs or cats, bunnies or anything else fluffy, if you had to see an advert on FreeCycle for a dog it would be your 'Pit Bull' and a typical dick head trying to get rid of it, >:(
Im totally against it too as you never know to whom the animal is going and what they are going to do with it. :'( GRRRRR!!!!
Many, many dogs have been known to have gone to the far east for breeding as its kudos to eat pedigree dogs.
This week I saw reported how a group of idiots set fire to a rabbit 'for fun'!!!!
All you need to do is phone up any breed rescue to see how we in Britain 'love' our pets.
I worked for our breed rescue and I have seen the horror that people will put dogs through and thats after paying up to a £1000.00 for them so God knows what they will do if the dog has been devalued by being 'free'.
Do Freecycle take any res[onsibility to what happens to these animals? I bet they dont.
to be fair to Freecycle it states in their rules no animals. It is usually very well moderated/monitored. Why not drop the mod a line?
As far as rabbits and guinea pigs are concerned there are lots of rescues that will have them if you can't cope with them. All of our pets have been rescued.
Hector I've been looking to find how to get in touch with the moderator but I can't find how to do it. I am computer thick though.
Shirl my 3 GPs are rescued ones. Chuffy, Lotty & Hetty.
If it was left to me I would have people licenced before they could keep any kind of livestock, dogs bunnies, cavies or even goldfish and the same applies to people having kids after what I have seen in the papers in the last couple of days, >:(
Quote from: Mr Smith on August 02, 2009, 17:14:35
This is totally against the grain with me I don't even like pet shops selling dogs or cats, bunnies or anything else fluffy, if you had to see an advert on FreeCycle for a dog it would be your 'Pit Bull' and a typical dick head trying to get rid of it, >:(
Blimy, I find I'm in total agreement with you Mr. S.
Quote from: Unwashed on August 02, 2009, 19:08:22
Quote from: Mr Smith on August 02, 2009, 17:14:35
This is totally against the grain with me I don't even like pet shops selling dogs or cats, bunnies or anything else fluffy, if you had to see an advert on FreeCycle for a dog it would be your 'Pit Bull' and a typical dick head trying to get rid of it, >:(
Blimy, I find I'm in total agreement with you Mr. S.
I'd tend to worry more about the dick head getting the dog!!! :o
American bulls are still strong dogs and any dog can turn nasty. How's this bloke going to know it's going to a good home, anyone can lie. The dog could end up being used for fighting or badger baiting. In my opinion the dog should go to a recognised organisation such as the RSPCA.....along with a generous donation!
Quote from: Unwashed on August 02, 2009, 19:08:22
Quote from: Mr Smith on August 02, 2009, 17:14:35
This is totally against the grain with me I don't even like pet shops selling dogs or cats, bunnies or anything else fluffy, if you had to see an advert on FreeCycle for a dog it would be your 'Pit Bull' and a typical dick head trying to get rid of it, >:(
Blimy, I find I'm in total agreement with you Mr. S.
Quote from: Unwashed on August 02, 2009, 19:08:22
Quote from: Mr Smith on August 02, 2009, 17:14:35
This is totally against the grain with me I don't even like pet shops selling dogs or cats, bunnies or anything else fluffy, if you had to see an advert on FreeCycle for a dog it would be your 'Pit Bull' and a typical dick head trying to get rid of it, >:(
Blimy, I find I'm in total agreement with you Mr. S.
Don't patronise me unlike others on here I have my own opinions,
Yours
GIT,
But has anyone considered what happens to the dog if its owner is not permitted to give it away!
It should be put to sleep. Or sent to the relevant rescue society.
Quote from: Ishard on August 03, 2009, 05:49:50
It should be put to sleep. Or sent to the relevant rescue society.
putting an animal to sleep just because some individual has had enough or their pet is very unfair on the animal. surely better to give it away.
Our local freecycle doesn't allow animals either fair enough, as for vetting, who does vet people when they buy animals, no one, you could buy a pet from a pet shop, they dont vet you, well except your wallet that is.
I agree with mr smith, keeping animals,pets,livestock should require a licence of sorts and mandatory tagging, so if the animals is lost, abused, involved in an accident, it can be traced back to an owner
Dogs of 8 months are entering adolescence and can become quite difficult for a time. It could be that the advertiser couldn't cope any more with this dog and used the 'splitting up' as an excuse.
Another thing - because Pitt bulls are a banned breed in the UK, they are often called by other names, like 'Irish Staffy' or 'American Staffy'. There have been many cases of organised dogfights in Birmingham using this type of dog and some prosecutions have been brought. It was reported in our local paper this week that because dogfighting is seen as just another sport in Pakistan, the Pakistani community here does not think it is wrong or cruel. They think it is normal for dogs to fight, so why not make money out of it by gambling on the outcome.
I think the dogfighting problem will get out of hand here in Birmingham unless something is done soon.
I agree whole heartedly with what you say Betty. We do have a big problem with dog fighting here in Brum.
Shirl, I dread it when I see this type of dog being walked in our park. My dog Graham is off the lead in the park and is not aggressive towards other dogs but Vera will bark at dogs she doesn't know. If one of these Pittbull types came over to us and Vera started barking it would probably attack her and then turn on Graham.
It's got to the stage now that I won't walk in our park without my friend and her two dogs. If she can't come, I take V and G round the allotments instead.
We have had several dogs over the years but I am always afraid that they will be attacked by other dogs. Tony had to walk them cos I was too afraid. The last dog we had Bruno had to got o our son in Durham cos he has a big garden and so wouldn't need walking. A lot of youngsters on our estate have staffs and I dread the day when 2 of them meet. Tony loves Staffies and he had one years ago before they became so popular and she was lovely.. I do know that where you live the youngsters are using their dogs as weapons. Something has to be done about this problem.
This awful news, where are the watchdogs [ sorry - pun ] when we need them ---
poking thier noses into something insignificant !! >:(
It is beyond belief that people can't walk thier dogs in safety, in fear of attack to thier dogs or
themselves in a local ' friendly ' park.
I thought there was a law against dogs who were a dangerous breed, muzzles etc
- don't get me wrong , I know there are lovable Staffies out there and good family pets,
But -- in the wrong hands you can make any dog a killer. !!
floss xxx
Flossy, there is a law against dangerous dogs but it doesn't seem to be enforced. The dogs are supposed to be neutered, muzzled and kept always on a lead. They are not.
They are not the 'ordinary' Staffies, I don't have a problem with these. The ones I worry about are the ones the owners say are 'Irish Staffies' or 'American Staffies'.
They look a lot different to genuine Staffies - longer legs and bigger altogether. I'm not blaming the breed. As you say, any dog in the wrong hands....... but the people who own them seem to want them because of the macho image. I can't imagine any of them take them to puppy classes like I did with my dogs, or encourage them to mix in a friendly way with other dogs.
Cjb putting this unwanted pet to sleep is the kindest thing you could do for this dog. A so called 'American Staffie' is very strong and possibily very dangerous.
It is better to know what happens to it than risk it getting into the wrong hands and the dog be abused
Quote from: Ishard on August 04, 2009, 04:43:59
Cjb putting this unwanted pet to sleep is the kindest thing you could do for this dog. A so called 'American Staffie' is very strong and possibily very dangerous.
It is better to know what happens to it than risk it getting into the wrong hands and the dog be abused
I agree. Some of these dogs are being used as weapons by people. Others are used for fighting. I don't want to come across one in the park when I'm walking my dogs.
We only see the lucky ones - the majority are kept in cages in sheds and never walked or made a fuss of. They are just a commodity.