Just been on the news. Michael Jackson has died of a heart attack. Although his life was surrounded in controversy, I still thought he was a decent singer.
Who'll get the kids?
sad for his children
although i didnt like him much its a shame as hes only 50. my daughter came charging down the stairs to tell me.
He made great music.......very sad.
not a fan of the man and some of his actions but his music was amazing. Sad news indeed.
who gives a fu**
Me, " ask not for whom the bell tolls"...
not a fan myself but he had talent, despite his "issues" and 50 is no age, and he has small children... :-X
When someone dies so young it reminds me that life is fragile.
oh dear.
I wish the bbc website would change saying "he had the unhealthy body of a 50 year old" to " he had the body of an unhealthy 50 year old" though
still, he'll live on - all his children are called Michael Jackson, even the girl
Quote from: jimtheworzel on June 26, 2009, 01:13:46
who gives a fu**
I agree with the sentiment. Birth and death are common to all of us, so what?
Doesn't this mean that there's one less paedophile in the world? Plus, personally I think his music was shallow, synthetic & lacking any intelligence.
Shame for his family, otherwise I'm with Jim!
Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on June 26, 2009, 07:19:09
still, he'll live on - all his children are called Michael Jackson, even the girl
LOL, they're called Prince (I & II) & Paris - they're middle names are Michael I think? :)
Agree with Jim though :)
His style and music certainly did not appeal to me, forget about the credit crunch and your mortgage he was fourhundred million $$$$$ in dept and like others have said its one less paedo to worry about, ;)
I'm not a huge fan of him, although I love the Thriller album, I think it's hard to separate the hype and rumours from the man himself. Despite his wealth, it never brought him happiness. I feel very sad for his children and his family and its a sad loss of talent.
Very sad, though those poor kids might now have more chance of a normal life.
I was never a "fan" of the man - but he was pretty much the ultimate "showman" of his time! His music and stage acts were stunning!
Echo thoughts about his children - hopefully they will get a more normal childhood now.
O B
I suppose if I choose to look at the private life of many singers /actors I admire I would be very dissapointed.
Michael has been a part of my musical life since I was very young and he has always entertained me.
For that I feel sad at his passing.
Today people are not happy to just admire the work.They want to know everything about the person.Not good.
For a father to die at 50 it's devastating for the children and the rest of the family. I felt sorry for the chap, his own childhood was dreadful by all accounts, I hope he can rest in peace now and his family can learn to live without him.
What he did or didn't do in his life is a matter of speculation, hype and manipulation and only those involved know the true facts.
Im with OllieC and jimtheworzel. Couldn't stand the music and thought he was a bit ridiculous.
Joe Strummer was more of a shock to me when he went.
who's going to get custody of Bubbles the Chimp??
Who is Joe Strummer ? ???
Quote from: Duke Ellington on June 26, 2009, 11:47:04
Who is Joe Strummer ? ???
He was in a band that wrote songs that actually had some meaning... Inspired a generation to pick up guitars & write songs instead of inspiring a generation of bad dancers to sprain their ankles...
The Clash... ? :-\
i loved the thriller era but was at the right age to do so, never followed him much after that however any death at that age is sad for those left behind
funnily enough i knew he would never ever make old bones and he was never gonna do those concerts in london
...you've gone and done it now Duke.... but you are right.........who is he? Only thing I can think of is what about his kids? Will their mother(s) take them? At least they might get to be treated more like "ordinary" kids now instead of all that messing around with veils and hoods etc.
twinkletoes
Just to make sure we're on the same wavelength, these kids we're talking about, is one of them the one that this lovely mad dangled over a balcony?
Ollie! We ALL make mistakes!!!!!
Old Bird
This thread is making for interesting reading.
I loved the Jacksons, and Michaels music, but then I also happen to be a huge fan of Joe Strummer & the Clash ;D (I saw Strummer play live a few times, including on Hastings pier....) Room for us all in this world and a time and a place for different music. And don't forget Quincy Jones' work on Jackson's albums was incredible!
I think its so sad that anyone dies so young
1066
When he dangled that/his Baby over the balcony it just showed what he was irresponsible, Jacko lived in his plastic world in his plastic body, this is starting to go down the 'Lady Di' road, we will never hear the bloody end of it I'm already turning the news off and watching that other funny show 'Today in Parliament', ;D
A great loss to the music world.
Its a shame about some of the comments in this thread but I guess it was to be expected.
Quote from: 1066 on June 26, 2009, 12:24:02
I saw Strummer play live a few times, including on Hastings pier
Jealous or what - missed em in Pompey and never got the chance again...
Have to admit that I like some of his music. As for the person himself, I didn't know enough about him (other than what the media put out about him) to develop an opinion. So many showbiz people end up dying before their time.
I guess it was to be expected.
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'Ditto'
One of the best quotes on this thread......
Quote from: 1066 on June 26, 2009, 12:24:02
And don't forget Quincy Jones' work on Jackson's albums was incredible!
1066
Duke
Well I always said there was no way he was capable of doing 50 concerts, he could hardly flippin stand let alone dance etc.....
A bit of an extreme sickie to pull though! ;)
Sorry all those that liked him but I really couldn't care less, it's been a long time coming and I'm willing to bet that it was mainly self inflicted by all his "modifications".
Quite a good article here...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jun/26/michael-jackson
Do not think she is saying anything new Ollie.
I think in our culture it is a fairly new thing,public outpouring of emotion,something that many of us are uncomfortable with and fail to understand.
It does not bother me.I can express a regret at someones passing and leave it at that.Others need to do more.
Who is she to say it is false.What makes her opinion more valid than yours or mine.
I have enjoyed Michael's work and I wish the rest had not happened.That is not my concern as half the stuff you read in the media is a load of rubbish .I do not know the facts.Nor do many others.
Loved his early music with the Jackon 5.
Thriller age was OK.
After that was cack.
Agree one less nonce.
Agree kids might just grow up normal now.
;D ;D ;D
I was shocked and saddened when I heard the news this morning. Michael was born in the same year as me and I was enthralled by his talent when he first came to my notice with the Jackson Five. He was one of very few pop stars whose picture I had on on my bedroom wall - most were of George Best! 'Ben' still makes me cry every time I hear it and I just love 'I Want You Back'. I remember very clearly where I was the day the Thriller video was released - and yes, I was one of the (65 million is it?) people who bought the album. RIP, Michael, the music world is diminished by your untimely death.
G x
Well said G :)
Couldn't have said it better Georgie.
A sad end to his life that was played out in public from 5 years old, with a nasty father !
How many of us woud remain 'normal' if put under that pressure for 45 years ??
He was trying to have the child hood he had lost and i think no child should be allowed to ever be put in that position again!
I won dance competitions to his music and he will live on in the music he left behind.
I loathed elvis and what he became but never slagged him of before he was even in his grave !
If you where not there to wittness the alleged incidents you have no right passing coment on it, if you where there speak up !
RIP Michael may angels watch over you.
Loved his music
Hated all the hype
CC
Time for the world to move on. Never a fan and not particuarly bothered and all this Lady Di type grief is getting on my nerves.
For the record, Syd Barrett was more of a loss for me.
A lot of people bought Thriller, and the music video was pretty good, but was it that significant musically? Significant like Bat out of Hell or Sergeant Pepper or Dark Side of the Moon? In the days when he was black, was he as important musically as Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Tina Turner, Barry White, Diana Ross, Aretha Franklin, Muddy Waters? As a pop phenomenon of the eighties was he as significant as Wham, Duran Duran, The Jam, U2?
He was red-top drama-fodder, slightly less anoying than Jimmy Osmond, slightly less strange than Howard Hughes, and a fair bit more talented than Jade Goody. And now he's dead.
BAT OUT OF HELL ????? :o :o :o
Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on June 27, 2009, 19:09:06
BAT OUT OF HELL ????? :o :o :o
I saw that too! I think he meant Blonde on Blonde!
1st thought when I heard yesterday was , just as well because he cannot handle his life and is now in peace. loved his music but cannot stand all this "over emoting" (if this isn't a word ,it should be)all these fan(atics) wallowing in grief just disgust me.
marg
I hear they're going to recycle his body into carrier bags.... so he'll still be white, plastic and a danger to small children.
Uh oh, I'm off to get my tin hat and sand bags ...
Quote from: jonny211 on June 28, 2009, 19:44:34
I hear they're going to recycle his body into carrier bags.... so he'll still be white, plastic and a danger to small children.
It must take a certain type person to come up with a line like that, shame there is no emicon with an arsehole on.
now we're going to have a summer of Michael Jackson songs on the radio, just like when Elvis died ( I mean with Elvis songs). That Godawful song "Way Down" was just slipping into oblivion - talk about a cardboard tombstone - then you couldn't go anywhere without hearing it
Either that or Exodus (movement of Jah people), which with all respect to Bob Marley, was also cr@p
Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on June 28, 2009, 21:50:12
now we're going to have a summer of Michael Jackson songs on the radio, just like when Elvis died ( I mean with Elvis songs).
the beauty of Radio 4 !! ;)
It's a recycled joke that's been around for years Mick...
"What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a carrier bag...
Nothing they are both plastic and dangerous to small children"
I personally like "goulish humour" aka "Joy Division, Isn't she dead?" after the suicide of Ian Curtis. Or "What used to come in little yellow bags" after the shooting of John Lennon.
I still think M Jackson was a great performer and artist, I didn't like his stuff but he was great at it. It's a sad loss as I said much earlier in this thread. Humour, however sick/depraved/unpleasant is one way people address mortality...
:-\
Quote from: MickW on June 28, 2009, 21:29:54
Quote from: jonny211 on June 28, 2009, 19:44:34
I hear they're going to recycle his body into carrier bags.... so he'll still be white, plastic and a danger to small children.
It must take a certain type person to come up with a line like that, shame there is no emicon with an arsehole on.
Whoa steady on mate, just a joke.
but if you want to be like that... don't search for an emicon - just post your avatar, there's one there.
I think in this case John you may have deserved it.
I never have been a fan of sick jokes.I take death seriously.
and the possibility of of a surge of MJ impersonators now is much greater than with Elvis. There's an internet thing that by 2012 one third of the world's population will be Elvis impersonators. This is a wilful misinterpretation of " exponential growth". Highest estimate is 100 million, but probably closer to 1 million
Ding ding, round two ...(http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/thumbnail2/762_boxing_smileys.gif)
Gents come now, no need to fall out over someone that neither of you knew :) Just accept that each of you have different opinions of said man and a different sense of humour as far as jokes are concerned. Don't get personal with each other and then regret it :)
I've got no opinion of MJ either way, I grew up on Billy Jean and Thriller and it suited the time perfectly. I also really felt sorry for the guy being hounded by the media, Martin Bashir should be ashamed of the way he portrayed him in that 'documentary'.
However I am a sucker for a bad taste joke, I apologise.
Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on June 28, 2009, 22:50:34
and the possibility of of a surge of MJ impersonators now is much greater than with Elvis. There's an internet thing that by 2012 one third of the world's population will be Elvis impersonators. This is a wilful misinterpretation of " exponential growth". Highest estimate is 100 million, but probably closer to 1 million
But RT, some of them are so like the real thing ...?
(http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/events/2007/Elvis_t520.jpg) (http://www.thesharkbook.com/blog/uploaded_images/elvis-729993.jpg) (http://www.howrdudoin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bill-elvis.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HPAs6mRxJY0/RsDpind-1jI/AAAAAAAAArA/UU_3TBdTE24/s400/elvis-week4261-1_thumb.jpg) (http://photos.igougo.com/images/p1199-Las_Vegas-Elvis_Wedding.jpg) (http://allegrasloman.com/newspics/ElvisPreseli.JPG) (http://recollectionbooks.com/bleed/images/music/melvis.JPG)
I take death very seriously...
but can still appreciate "black humour".... :-X
Fail to see............."the humour" :(
I can accept that Betula.... many things that are supposed to be funny go right over my head...
each to their own. :-X
Always when someone dies the jokes pour in, best ignored if you feel any emotion for the passing.
Perhaps it's all this availability on the internet because I certainly don't remember jokes about Bob Marley, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, all taken too early.
Not a fan of MJ myself but I do appreciate that he was a remarkable dancer not to be matched for a long time.
We are in for a long haul of shock headlines I'm sure but that's what sells newspapers to the masses as we all know.
Funny how this is more important than young men being killed in wars isn't it!
If your not a fan turn off the news like me, don't buy newspapers and head back to your allotments.
Love and Peace to all
x
lets hope al fayad dont reply to this thread itl go on forever....... and im getting
p****d off with it
With you on that JTW
They must have been around for ages... I remember several Marc Bolan jokes in very poor taste... :-X
I think you should be allowed to say what you like about dead paedophiles without people getting on their high horse... And for those who keep saying that he wasn't convicted - paedophilia was a psychological disorder long before it was a crime, and he clearly displayed an attraction to snuggling up with young children.
And now all this lady Di nonsense... what next, the people's paedo?!
His music was rubbish and now his children can sleep with their eyes shut - at least they can rest in peace.
Judge and jury AND medically qualified Ollie?
Quote from: ceres on June 29, 2009, 08:20:30
Judge and jury AND medically qualified Ollie?
I told you - the legal bit is a red herring - it is a psychological disorder, you don't have to be found guilty, you have to display the symptoms, which he clearly did.
It is very funny that people think liking someone's art makes the artist innocent - 2 entirely unrelated things!
You TOLD me? lol @ Dr. Ollie ;D
Yes, yes i did, and next I shall do my Jarvis Cocker impression...