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Title: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Squash64 on June 10, 2009, 21:19:27
We have a couple of feral cats at the allotments and they have had a litter of kittens, now about five or six weeks old.

The kittens were huddled together near the pavilion today and when we looked at them it was obvious that one of them has an eye infection.

We caught it, and bathed the eye with salt water.

What can we do about it?  I'm thinking that even if we take it to the vet, how are we going to keep giving it drops or whatever afterwards as it could be anywhere on the site. Would the Cats Protection League help?

Any advice please?
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: grannyjanny on June 10, 2009, 21:23:18
I think they might. There were several feral cats in our village & the CPL caught them & they were spayed or castrated & then freed.
Janet
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: grotbag on June 10, 2009, 21:25:07
you could give the rspca a call,or catch em yourself and try to find new homes for them.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Suzanne on June 10, 2009, 21:28:45
I had heard that CPL sometimes offer feral cats for release to farms and lottie sites where someone keeps an eye on them but they generally live a free life. Not sure how I feel about this - would keep the mice down - but also decimate the songbirds we have on our site, some of which nest in the long grass to the edge of the site.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Tin Shed on June 10, 2009, 21:32:21
I certainly think that the kitten needs to be checked - it might have cat flu.
One of our rescue cats had cat flu when we chose her from a rescue centre and had another bout of it  a few months later. She was quite poorly and needed a lot of care, nearly needing to be hospitalized at the vets.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: lewic on June 10, 2009, 21:35:41
As they are so young they could probably be tamed and found homes. The RSPCA should be able to advise.

I'd have been tempted to take the kitten home myself!
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Squash64 on June 10, 2009, 21:41:38
I think I will contact the CPL tomorrow, I hate to think of any animal suffering and nothing being done about it. 
What are the symptoms of cat flu?  The kitten has one eye closed with yellow stuff coming out of it.
Nobody objects to the cats being on the site but I do understand the problem about birds.  Maybe they are full up with mice and leave the birds alone?
If I didn't have two manically cat-hating terriers at home I would have taken the kitten, but it is impossible in the circumstances.

Thanks for your replies.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Tin Shed on June 10, 2009, 21:56:23
Our cat had a high temperature, sneezed and had gunky eyes and a blocked nose. She was generally unwell and lethargic and as she had lost her sense of smell , because of  her blocked nose , it was very difficult to tempt her to eat.
She recovered well and continues to have all her innoculations, but the vet reckoned that she could still go down with cat flu again if she got very stressed or unwell as the virus apparently remains dormant. The only  problem she has from the flu is a blocked tear duct which sometimes makes her eye water.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: grotbag on June 10, 2009, 22:21:09
kittens often get eye infections ,it is easily cured  with eye cream .(you can get some  drops from a chemist (dont remember the name ,but the active ingredient is Fucidic acid )
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Kea on June 11, 2009, 15:40:17
Cat flu's first symptom is quite often a 'gunky' eye. It's a horrible way for them to die.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: norfolklass on June 12, 2009, 10:47:38
I'd go for the CPL rather than the RSPCA. my friend had feral cats in the basement of the building she lived in. we took a box full of kittens with the beginnings of cat flu to the RSPCA hospital and they destroyed them all :(
hope this has a happier outcome!
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: betula on June 12, 2009, 10:51:20
The RSPCA are very worthy and do a lot of good work.However they do put animals down a bit to quick for my liking.

A charity dedicated to cats is much better. :)
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Mr Smith on June 12, 2009, 17:34:09
Betula,
           What knowledge do you have that the RSPCA put animals down in the way you described, :)
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Borlotti on June 12, 2009, 17:42:26
Some animal charities do put animals to sleep, I will check with my daughter as she only gives to the ones that look after the animals.  Baby (my lovely cat) came from a farm where they drowned all the kittens, but baby was lucky and smuggled home in my son's blazer pocket, and we already had a cat and a dog and baby had 7 kittens at 5 months old, before I got her done.  She was obviously a survivor.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: shirlton on June 12, 2009, 18:09:01
Hi Betty. I would definitely go for the C.P.L as they will do their best to find homes for them and they may even get the ferrels speyed for you.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Squash64 on June 12, 2009, 19:23:52
Thanks everyone for your very helpful replies.

One of our plotholders has contacted an animal charity that she has rehomed cats from in the past.  I'll let you know what the outcome is.

Yesterday I almost squashed one of the kittens  :o  It was behind the pavilion door but luckily I glanced down before I opened it fully.  I picked the kitten up and it didn't struggle at all.  In fact, I thought it was too calm for a feral kitten.  It snuggled up to me and I carried it around while I looked for the other kittens.  When I found another kitten and put it down, it walked straight back to me.  If I didn't have dogs, I would be very tempted.....

One of our plotholders has brought some kitten food and milk and will leave food down for them every day.  He has ELEVEN cats of his own!

I haven't seen the kitten with the infected eye today.  The eleven-cat-man has brought some ointment he had at home for his own cats and he will treat it IF we can find it.

Nobody has seen the mother cat for days :(
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Jokerman on June 12, 2009, 22:26:21
shotgun may help......................    ;D
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: amanda21 on June 13, 2009, 13:11:47
Even if they seem healthy I would call the CPL or Blue Cross Cats in the hope that they may spade or castrate them, otherwise they will all just interbreed and interbreed causing more problems in the long run. 
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: lewic on June 15, 2009, 21:25:57
Kittens who snuggle up and purr when they are picked up will be snapped up, especially if you can get their cute little faces in the local paper. I suspect its the pissy ones who run away when humans come near that might face a more uncertain fate.

Sounds like you are doing all the right things!
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: CDave on June 16, 2009, 07:49:59
My mrs does voluntary work for a local cat shetler and has loads of experience in taming down feral kittens. Not sying that this is the "correct route" but this is what our shelter does.

Starting point is that we rely on donations and can't possibly assist every in case. We will try to trap / catch any feral kittens. Not always easy - particularly when the get over, say, 8 weeks. We try to trap the mother too. For kittens under, say, 8 weeks, we can usually tame them down. We have 2 pens of youngsters (11 kittens) in our house at moment. Regular handling and getting used to noises, kids and our dogs usually does the trick.

For older kittens, unfortunately, these are usually beyond help - they usually can't be tamed down sufficiently to make pets - or, they might get used to people to an extent but remain "flighty" and very nervous. We normally put these to sleep. Same with mothers too. Sad fact of life is that even if castrated/ neutured, and released, these cats will have difficulty finding food and will probably succumb to disease. Not much of a life in the cold winter - even if you you are neutured.

My advice is to get in touch with an animal/cat rescue society quickly. A few will neuter cats and let them go. In our opinion, not the best option - but thats our opinion. A few will neuter and keep in semi open pens. A shelter near us does that - but there are obvious implications for space. There just isn't enough to house everal feral. RSPCA?? In our experience, they might help. They might not. Thats not a pop at RSCPA either. Its our exerience and maybe reflects the fact that all animal charities have finate resources.

As an alternative - why not try to get friends and fellow plot holders to take in a kitten. Its extremely rewarding to turn a hissing, terrified beautiful ball of fluff into a laid back, loving cat. All our 4 cats are rescued feral kittens that we've tamed down but haven't been able to pass on to new owners.

Good luck and well done for helping.   
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Theplotthickens on June 16, 2009, 20:59:12
Quote from: grannyjanny on June 10, 2009, 21:23:18
I think they might. There were several feral cats in our village & the CPL caught them & they were spayed or castrated & then freed.
Janet

As feral cats are not indigenous to the UK, this would be an illegal act (section 14 of the Wildlife & Countryside Act I believe ?)

Quote from: Jokerman on June 12, 2009, 22:26:21
shotgun may help......................    ;D
Personally I think this the kinder option if they are truly feral and not just 1st generation feral as I believe they are in this case.
Title: Re: Feral kittens at our allotments - advice please
Post by: Squash64 on June 17, 2009, 16:33:48
Thanks everyone for your helpful replies since my last "thanks everyone for your helpful replies" post!

Just to give you an update .....

The cat rescue place that someone contacted couldn't help because they have no room. 

I saw what I believe to be the mother cat the other day, a long way away
from the area behind the pavilion where the kittens were.  She had a kitten with her, following her through the long grass. 

There is one black kitten in the compound behind the pavilion.  I bought some kitten food and feed it every morning, Mr.11Cats feeds it in the afternoon.  We haven't seen the other kittens, or the mother cat in the compound so it seems as though the black kitten is on its own there.

I put the food down, then hide behind a fence and watch for it to come and eat, it doesn't take long for it to go to the food.  I leave fresh water too.

It looks as though nature has taken its course with three of the kittens, they haven't been seen for about a week now.   :(