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Title: Planting out cucumers
Post by: anemone on May 30, 2009, 11:50:05
Do you plant out cucumbers so that their stems are a little buried up to the next leaves (like toms)? Or do they go at the same soil level to avoid stem rot?

also what size would you wait to until planting them out?
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: Digeroo on May 30, 2009, 13:49:02
Sorry no one responding.  I think everyone is out in their allotments!!  Was out early but now it is too hot for me.

Courgettes and Squashes are quite happy to produce roots out of their stems.  Cucumbers do this as well, so plant them up to the leaves.  They can be a little delicate between the stem and the roots so earthing them up prevents the wind rocking them. 

Watch out for the slugs though they love a nice juice fresh cucumber plant.
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: davyw1 on May 30, 2009, 14:56:18
Quote from: anemone on May 30, 2009, 11:50:05
Do you plant out cucumbers so that their stems are a little buried up to the next leaves (like toms)? Or do they go at the same soil level to avoid stem rot?

also what size would you wait to until planting them out?

You don,t plant cucumbers in the ground you plant them just above ground level to avoid stem rot

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Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: sarah on May 30, 2009, 15:56:25
i am about to plant mine out aswell and was wondering the same thing. i was thinking of cutting a grow bag in half and standing them on their ends and planting a cucumber in each; like some people do with tomatoes.  i am hoping it will work. i have had mixed success with outdoor cucmbers grown directly i the ground, some years good - most years bad.  this year aswell as the grow bag idea i will be tying them into the trellis of a fence. good luck with yours.  :)
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: Digeroo on May 30, 2009, 19:12:24
I think that outside they are more prone to being blown about in the wind than stem rot.
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: anemone on May 30, 2009, 20:13:01
Thank you, after waiting a while I figured everyone was already at their allotment in the sun and I'd better get out there too:)

So I took a guess at how to plant them, and they did go direct into the ground. Maybe I can earth them up around their stems later.

I have a couple of bamboo pyramid things from wilkinsons that I'm hoping will work well for them to climb.






Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: tim on May 31, 2009, 06:26:27
Each to their own - I just stuff 'em in!

Remember to pinch out the first  couple of sets.
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: simmo116 on May 31, 2009, 08:52:05
Quote from: tim on May 31, 2009, 06:26:27
Each to their own - I just stuff 'em in!

Remember to pinch out the first  couple of sets.
canyou explain please(sorry to sound like a thicko...lol
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: cacran on May 31, 2009, 09:44:50
What Simmo said 'ditto'! ???
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: tim on May 31, 2009, 09:57:10
Sorry - meant first 2 lots of flowers or embryo cus.
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: sarah on May 31, 2009, 10:27:05
what is the reason for that Tim?
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: pigeonseed on May 31, 2009, 10:32:27
Quote from: Digeroo on May 30, 2009, 19:12:24
I think that outside they are more prone to being blown about in the wind than stem rot.
Yes it's windy here in Hastings - I never knew you could plant tomatoes or cucumbers further up the stem!

And in the South East it can be so dry that I have always made a ring of soil around the outside of the cucumber and squash plants. This helps stop water running off before it can penetrate the dry soil.

So the opposite of the advice I've always read in books about a mound to help water run off!

I saw people doing this when I was on holiday in Cyprus and it's very useful. i do it for tomatoes as well.
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: amphibian on May 31, 2009, 10:45:45
Quote from: pigeonseed link=topic=52161.msg529572#msg529572
And in the South East it can be so dry that I have always made a ring of soil around the outside of the cucumber and squash plants. This helps stop water running off before it can penetrate the dry soil.

So the opposite of the advice I've always read in books about a mound to help water run off!

I do exactly the same, I plant my squash, tomatoes, aubergines, maize, courgettes, cucumbers*, melons* and beans in craters, the soil stays moist and watering is more efficient.

A trick traditionally used by native americans in drier areas, that has proven very useful in the dry deserts of Kent and Sussex. 

*in the case of melons and cucumbers the root ball is positioned slightly above the floor of the crater but still higher than the surrounding ground.
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: tim on May 31, 2009, 11:04:27
To give the poor thing a spell of freedom, Sarah, before having babies!
Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: Tee Gee on May 31, 2009, 19:59:51
As one who has lost plants to neck rot in the past, I have been trying this method for the last couple of years and have not lost a plant as yet!

I call it my 'gator' and it means I can water quite freely around the plant and the bottom 3"-4" of stem (the vulnerable bit) never gets wet!

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Title: Re: Planting out cucumers
Post by: tim on June 01, 2009, 08:16:26
Reminds me of the song - and her swimming suit never got wet!!