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Title: germinating seeds
Post by: gordonsveg on May 07, 2009, 20:47:08
we have just brought some Protea and Bird of Paradise seeds back from Madeira,can anyone give me any tips for germinating them,temps,soil etc please? ??? ???
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: saddad on May 07, 2009, 20:55:45
Hot... you didn't pick up any Echium Pininana did you? The one in the garden doesn't look like it will survive to flower...  :'(
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 07, 2009, 22:01:17
I've tried that from POD a couple of times. I haven't got it through the winter; the first time it died in the open, the second it died in a mini greenhouse.
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: Tee Gee on May 08, 2009, 14:06:16
There is a bit here on Strelitzia; http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Data/Strelitzia/Strelitzia.htm (http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Data/Strelitzia/Strelitzia.htm)

Sorry I know nothing about Protea
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: gordonsveg on May 10, 2009, 13:17:25
Thanks tee gee, printed it off,o.k i hope, as you seem to be switched on with all our questions do you know anything about maracuja banana and would you like a couple of seeds? ???
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: saddad on May 10, 2009, 14:28:17
I've managed to get it through two winters... but it's dieing now...  :'(
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: Tee Gee on May 10, 2009, 14:59:06
Quotedo you know anything about maracuja banana and would you like a couple of seeds?

New one on me, did a google and all I could find (in english) was maracuja passion fruit.

Regarding the seed thanks but no thanks.

Perhaps if I knew a bit more about them I would try them as I often try my hand with exotic seeds.

I take a rain check for now and wait to see if this thread develops a bit first!
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: Baccy Man on May 10, 2009, 15:09:41
Maracuja banana (Passiflora mollissima) will grow outdoors, if the frost catches it it will regrow from the roots. If you want ripe fruit then it is better grown in a greenhouse or conservatory as it doesn't ripen reliably outdoors.
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: manicscousers on May 10, 2009, 16:16:42
Quote from: gordonsveg on May 10, 2009, 13:17:25
maracuja banana and would you like a couple of seeds? ???
mine died and the fruit didn't ripen, I grew it outside, live and learn    ;D
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: skintnbitter on May 10, 2009, 18:28:26
I bought some Bird of Paridise seeds for my dad for xmas about 3 years ago. Each year i pick weird and wonderful seeds for him to see if he can get them to grow as a bit of fun.

He was told to rub the hairy / rough part of the seed with some sand paper to remove most of it,  then he sat the seeds in a plastic bottle with a little water on top of the radiator for a couple of weeks, then he planted them in Sand / Soil.

We now have a plant each, Dad keeps his in the concervatory as it is about 4 feet tall and i keep mine in the kitchen as it is only around 18 inch.   No flowers as yet!
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: pamsdish on May 10, 2009, 18:31:54
Had a quick look and they seem to have your answer finebushpeople.co.za
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: gordonsveg on May 11, 2009, 20:06:38
 ;D ;D Thank you all for your help especialy pamsdish i have just been on their website, i paid £5 for 6 seeds in madeira and was happy.Once again thank you all. :) :)
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: genlistlass on May 12, 2009, 20:33:15
I lived in South Africa for 20 years and there was a protea forest at the end of our street. Think protea seeds need to go through a bush fire to germinate....... don't know the Brit equivalent of a bushfire;-)

Gen in Northumberland
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: moonbells on June 22, 2009, 12:58:14
Just spotted this thread...  :o

I've got a bit of experience in germinating birds of paradise... though my experience has varied from up to down at times!

http://www.moonbells.com/strelitzia/strelitzia.html

moonbells

Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: Barnowl on June 22, 2009, 15:38:24

I was told to simulate fire (this was for an Australian plant) by sowing in a seed tray them laying a piece of newspaper over the tray and setting fire to it. Haven't yet tried it. Presumably, most of the heat will go upwards but there will be some heat and the ash drops into the tray and that should stimulate germination.

However the Protea seeds that I have apparently aren't the type that need fire but another type requiring a sequence of warmth and cold - which explains why they are still in the packet!
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: tonybloke on June 22, 2009, 23:03:08
you can purchase 'smoke' papers which you soak in water before soaking the seeds, this aids germination of some species, which prefer to grow after a fire. ;) 
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: moonbells on June 23, 2009, 10:20:37
I got my smoke primers from here: they also sell seed at a fraction of the cost of getting a packet from the garden centre here!
   

http://finebushpeople.co.za/farmstore/catalog/accessorystore.htm


moonbells
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: saddad on June 23, 2009, 10:32:25
Quotedon't know the Brit equivalent of a bushfire
Genlistlass... it's called swealing.. burning off rough grass moorland... frowned upon now but once widely practiced, hence the dialect word for it...  :)
Title: Re: germinating seeds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on June 23, 2009, 13:15:19
Swaling's OK if it's done properly, while the ground under the grass is damp. That way you burn off old, dead grass, scorch off any trees or bushes starting to grow through it, and maintain rough pasture or young heather in a good state. Trouble is, people these days often burn when the ground's dry, and it gets out of control.