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Title: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on May 07, 2009, 13:20:05
Hi all

Had problems with the carrots I sowed (capping on clay soil I think!?!) so am going to re-prepare that bed this weekend and replace with other roots.  I am thinking Parsnips and something else.  I already have radish and beetroot in so I need ideas for an other root crops....anyone got any good ideas?

Anyone grown salsify?  Is it easy?

Psi
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: lightyears on May 07, 2009, 13:39:02
How about swede?
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: saddad on May 07, 2009, 13:53:27
Salsify self seeds like mad all over our lotties, getting it to grow when and where you want it is another matter.  :-X
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: allaboutliverpool on May 07, 2009, 13:54:36
Swede, Turnip, Beetroot, Celeriac, Khol Rabi.

These all grow above the ground and are more forgiving than carrots and parsnips which require deeply dug and preferably sandy soil.

They are all nearly pest free although some of my celeriac have had a mild canker-like affliction. Keep the pigeons off the turnip, khol rabi and swede!

http://www.allaboutliverpool.com/allaboutallotments1_homepage
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on May 07, 2009, 14:31:44
thanks for the help.

I am trying to keep this bed strictly to roots and I know turnips, swede and kohl rabi are - strictly speaking - brassicas.

How does salsify spread over the plot?  Never heard this before but am interested as I have inherited jerusalem weeds, sorry artickoes on the plot and they are everywhere!

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Doris_Pinks on May 07, 2009, 14:46:01
I had absolutely no luck with carrots until I covered them with multipurpose compost  instead of the soil,and fleeced until they were ready to pull..........no clay capping that way! ;)

Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on May 07, 2009, 14:51:15
yes I will try a couple of rows sowed under a compost/sandy mix and see if it helps.  unfortunaltely, as well as capping, this bed was inundated with weeds - possibly blown onto the plot or pre-existing in the council's compost....either way, re-digging is vital.

How about some leeks and spring onion alongside parsnips and a few experimental carrots??
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Eristic on May 07, 2009, 21:25:42
Worzel and Scorzonera. little and large. will keep you fed all winter.
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: saddad on May 07, 2009, 21:34:32
Beautiful daisy like flower, followed by very decorative "structured" seed clock like Dandelions...

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/Plot52/salsify.jpg)

That's how it spreads around the site...
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Psi (Pronounced 'Si'!) on May 08, 2009, 10:24:39
can I just take the flowers off to stop it happenning if I do just 2 or 4 5 foot rows?
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: thifasmom on May 08, 2009, 11:24:28
yes and as buds they are edible too :)

http://www.innvista.com/health/foods/vegetables/salsify.htm (http://www.innvista.com/health/foods/vegetables/salsify.htm)
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Kea on May 08, 2009, 14:56:35
I'm thinking of trying the short stubby carrots e.g. Parmex
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Hector on May 17, 2009, 11:52:43
Quote from: Eristic on May 07, 2009, 21:25:42
Worzel and Scorzonera. little and large. will keep you fed all winter.

Eristic, are ypu continuing with Scorzonera?
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Eristic on May 17, 2009, 12:02:57
Yes.

Last winter I had difficulty digging them up as the roots seemed to go down forever, so I'm trying an experiment this year. I've taken plastic water bottles about 2ltr size, cut the bottom off, filled them with soil and sowed a seed in the fat end of each. Plants are now growing nicely and sitting in a couple of buckets waiting for some garden space.

The plan is to plant the bottles in the top of a ridge so that at harvest time all I have to do is remove the bottle and fork the ridge to get a very long root out of the ground.

Unfortunately my camera is out of action so there are no pictures for the time being.
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: Hector on May 17, 2009, 12:08:32
Thanks for that, sounds interesting. I think I will give that a go and propagate some this afternoon. It was the harvesting/breaking off that was making me question going for it or not.
Title: Re: Ideas for ROOTS bed
Post by: terrier on May 17, 2009, 12:26:12
Quote from: Eristic on May 17, 2009, 12:02:57
Yes.

Last winter I had difficulty digging them up as the roots seemed to go down forever, so I'm trying an experiment this year. I've taken plastic water bottles about 2ltr size, cut the bottom off, filled them with soil and sowed a seed in the fat end of each. Plants are now growing nicely and sitting in a couple of buckets waiting for some garden space.

The plan is to plant the bottles in the top of a ridge so that at harvest time all I have to do is remove the bottle and fork the ridge to get a very long root out of the ground.

Unfortunately my camera is out of action so there are no pictures for the time being.


Now why didn't you post that yesterday BEFORE is sowed my Scozerona  ::)   ;D