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Title: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 06, 2009, 11:12:39
got this off of freecycle last year, the owner wasn't sure what it is queried it might be a herb, I've searched and searched but i can't find a positive id, anyone wants to hazard a guess.

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Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: saddad on May 06, 2009, 11:41:08
No idea...  :-[
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: skyblu on May 06, 2009, 11:54:08
any chance it could be Borage?
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on May 06, 2009, 11:58:46
do the leaves have a smell?
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 06, 2009, 12:09:47
no not borage as its a perennial and spent the winter in the tray i brought it home in this is the new growth from this year. i want to properly id it before planting it out.

Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on May 06, 2009, 11:58:46
do the leaves have a smell?

nope no smell what so ever ???
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on May 06, 2009, 12:39:48
white horehound? or some other labiate?
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Twoflower on May 06, 2009, 14:59:38
The only two that look like it in my herb book are white horehound and wall germander. Neither say anything about smell, the first has white flowers and the second are pink. I take it, it hasn't flowered yet? vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvbbff
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Twoflower on May 06, 2009, 15:04:08
sorry that was the cat ;D the white horehound says that the leaves are green and wrinkled with the underside of a sliver woolly texture. Wall germander are mid green and shaped like miniature oak leaves with crumpled edges.  :)
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 06, 2009, 15:56:38
no it hasn't flowered yet,

i think it looks more like the wall germander i'll wait for it to flower and then i'll be able to id it better.
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: saddad on May 06, 2009, 16:26:25
It doesn't look anything like our "Germander" hedges Thifasmom....
:-\

Could send you a clipping for comparison... might be another germander though.
  ???
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on May 06, 2009, 17:54:45
Definitely not borage. It looks like a labiate, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Kea on May 06, 2009, 18:02:02
Are the stems square in cross section?
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 06, 2009, 21:29:51
Quote from: Robert_Brenchley on May 06, 2009, 17:54:45
Definitely not borage. It looks like a labiate, but I could be wrong.

when i google labiate i'm getting all manner of different plants, so can't poperly compare.

Quote from: Kea on May 06, 2009, 18:02:02
Are the stems square in cross section?


i'll check tomorrow.
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: lavenderlux on May 06, 2009, 21:59:55
I think it could be Germander speedwell - Veronica chamaedrys - also known as 'bird's eye speedwell'.  Has very pretty blue flowers with a white eye and is a perennial wild flower but there is a 'garden' variety too.   
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on May 06, 2009, 22:05:27
it does look more like Wall Germander than White Horehound.
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: STEVEB on May 07, 2009, 00:21:56
lemon balm ?
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Ninnyscrops. on May 07, 2009, 00:33:04
This is my lemon balm, similar, have you crushed the leaves to release any scent?

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t87/ninnyscrops/DSCF1796.jpg

Linda
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 07, 2009, 09:48:50
deffo not lemon balm i've got some, plus it has no scent at all.

i'm not sure about the Germander speedwell - Veronica chamaedrys either.

i'm still leaning more to Wall Germander.

Quote from: Kea on May 06, 2009, 18:02:02
Are the stems square in cross section?


hmm not definately would say its more round but not perfectly
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Kea on May 07, 2009, 09:51:32
Not in the Labiatae family then.
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 07, 2009, 09:54:44
Quote from: Kea on May 07, 2009, 09:51:32
Not in the Labiatae family then.

hmm maybe not :-\
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Kea on May 07, 2009, 10:01:47
Though not all have completely square stems......flowers would help tell it to flower!
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on May 07, 2009, 10:10:14
Quote from: Kea on May 07, 2009, 10:01:47
Though not all have completely square stems......flowers would help tell it to flower!

;D i will ;D
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on June 04, 2009, 16:01:47
Well it has begun to flower, funny thing is i was chatting to my neighbour a  couple of days ago and he seems to have a few clumps of this plant but lost the plant label and he also doesn't remember the name of it.

so any new or definite ideas ???

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Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on June 05, 2009, 12:02:21
bump
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Unwashed on June 05, 2009, 12:43:36
It's got to be a veronica of some sort.  How about Veronica austriaca
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Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: Kea on June 05, 2009, 16:45:40
I think Unwashed has it, it has a very distinctive flower.
Title: Re: plant ID please
Post by: thifasmom on June 06, 2009, 00:42:52
yes i think unwash is right, thanks guys :)