I've just paid for my ground rent for my half plot which cost me £28 for the year. I was wondering what everyone else pays? When I took the plot on 5 years ago, it was £14, I think this is a huge leap. My plot is in North Hertfordshire.
This is a regularly recurring topic. We pay £20, up from £10 two years ago and going up to £24 in October for 300sq yards... cheap at twice the price... ;D
And twice the price is what we pay!
Chessington @ £50 per full plot
That's about the city average here, it was £48 pa several years ago.. :-X
Same old supply and demand. Allotments become trendy and the price goes up :-\ Trouble is, i don't think we will see them come down again.
I'm only £32 a year for a double plot in Glasgow, but I have to pay for my own machine guns ;)
here's a similar thread:
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,46121.msg520959.html#msg520959
Quote from: sawfish on May 05, 2009, 10:53:55
I'm only £32 a year for a double plot in Glasgow, but I have to pay for my own machine guns ;)
here's a similar thread:
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,46121.msg520959.html#msg520959
Why a machine gun?
I paid £22.50 for shares each plot holder pays a different one off amount, then its £3.50 per year
making a joke about the old 'Glasgows a scary place thing' which isn't true anyway.
I paid £20 last year for 200 sq mtrs, don,t know what this years rent is yet. Would happily pay twice that!!
£4.70/pole, up 15% from last year.
For quite a few of our tenants the council can't actually increase the rent at all because the tenancy agreement doesn't make provision, and if I understand it right the unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 means that landlords can't increase the rent arbitrarily, only by CPI or similar - so we should expect cheaper rents next year! The Regulations also require 12 month's notice of increase. My council ignores all that and does what it likes, but I'm trying to change that.
28.50 for 10 rods, including water.
Maidstone, Kent.
My two full sized plots cost £19 (total) including water.
I think this is half price (age thing!)
sorry if this upsets a few but I pay £ 3 a year for 3 plots and this includes water.and discounted compost fertalisers etc from the stores . Ours is a village site and we have had a grant off the community council to get 20+ tons of manure delivered .Get this though...this is the first year in the 5 that I've been on the site that all the plots are taken
Quote from: bedrockdave on May 05, 2009, 12:26:31
sorry if this upsets a few but I pay £ 3 a year for 3 plots and this includes water.and discounted compost fertalisers etc from the stores . Ours is a village site and we have had a grant off the community council to get 20+ tons of manure delivered .Get this though...this is the first year in the 5 that I've been on the site that all the plots are taken
:o :o :o I've just choked on my cuppa
to provide a smidgeon of perspective ... in the middle of the 19th century it is estimated that our allotment forefathers paid in the region of one week's wages for a labourer for a quarter of an acre.
If you substitute the average weekly wage in April 2008 the equivalent cost today comes out at around £12 per pole, i.e. £60 for 5 poles or £120 for 10 poles.
What facilities did they have - er, none ... discount for senior citizens - WHATA?!
What was the take up? ... demand exceeded supply.
But the actual cost is only one factor.
Is the site secure? Is the access & parking good? Is there water? Are there toilets? Do you have free extras like manure, wood chippings, pallets, etc? Are there tools you can borrow? Can you have sheds & greenhouses? Is the site a friendly one? Are there communal social activities? Is the Committee on the ball? Is the site run-down or thriving?
For the record, a 5-pole on our site is £12 a year. Ridiculously cheap! (Especially as we have a waiting list and the answer to much of the above is in the affirmative!)
Here we pay £21 a year for up to 250sqm, which i think is great even if we do only get water and land. I'm even trying to get a 2nd plot as our site has lots of empty ones. My stepson wants to get one in 1066s area as he has no garden at all. I think allotments are wonderful places :)
22p per square metre, includes secure fencing all around, manure, wood, paved paths everywhere, water..only thing missing is a toilet ;D
Just down the road from you PJW ;)
Our 2 plots are split, 1 at full price £56 :o , and the other in Granmda's name to get the old farts discount ;D - so £84 :o
Or maybe £1.60 a week feels better :P
Water included, but fence them yourself 'cos NHDC cant be bothered to do it >:(
As treasurer I keep pressing for an "Old Farts" increase, as they aren't at work they can get more out of it, be there longer so should pay more.... :o
They should get a reduction - how can you be so harsh.
saddad, what do you define as an '' old fart '' ?
I wish I could hover over you when I become '' an old fart '' ! ::)
Don't you know we are still young in our mature bodies, -- don't
you know that '' what we feel is'' '' what you presume and see ''
I still like you, ;)
floss xxx
Over 65's get a reduction on our site, but kinda agree with you saddad ;) they can go more often, my retired Mother-in-law has a plot on my site and she practically lives there, I am luck if I get 1 day a week other than that its a few snatched moments here and there! :-\
Quote from: bedrockdave on May 05, 2009, 12:26:31
sorry if this upsets a few but I pay £ 3 a year for 3 plots and this includes water.and discounted compost fertalisers etc from the stores . Ours is a village site and we have had a grant off the community council to get 20+ tons of manure delivered .Get this though...this is the first year in the 5 that I've been on the site that all the plots are taken
:o :o :o :o :o I'm jealous and I want a plot!
So when are you entitled to some ''old age '' ????
Excuse me , but I have earn't my time in '' rehab '' [joke ], ;D
You young people will never understand until you get there yourselves !
It will come , and all I can say is '' enjoy '' ;)
floss xxx
bjude9 , sorry , you are so ' sour grapes ' , get a grip -- is it all 'me me me ',
--- love your ' ma in law ', perhaps she ' lives there ' because she doesn't see
you and your familly enough !
£35 a year, water piped into my shed, free usage no rules. Horse manure at request by the truck loads.
bit harsh sadad!!! our *old farts* deserve their reduction,not least because they pass down all their advice they have picked up over the years,but also cos they act as a constant precence onsite,and a few of ours run our stores,i as sec certainly dont have time to do that!!! and hey,they earn less than us youngsters!!!!!!
"Old fart" is defined as over 60 on my site. We pay £26 a year (it's £46 for under 60s) and of course we deserve it! Water tap and tank for every 4 plots. Trading shed. Composting loos at either end. Communal compost heap. Communal trolleys and wheelbarrows. Rotavator for hire. Good sources of free wood and pallets. Swap table. Horse manure at £40 for a huge load (I share with other plotholders). :D
Wasn't intending to offend anyone...
The "old fart" was a continuation from a previous comment but it was on the previous page... so maybe you didn't pick up that I was using someone else's comment... hence the "quotation"
:-[
One plot costs £3 a year, no water land held in trust/town council and a committee manages the plots.
The second plot costs £43 a year/£25 concession, with water and managed by the Borough Council.
So does that make us newbies "fresh farts" then?? ;D
Plot 1 is roughly £7 per yr no facilities ( we took a derelict area and turned it into productive lottie in 2004 - and put up fences, so parish council decided the investment we put in was lieu of the rent to 2014?
Plots 2 and 3 were £10 per year - but the rent went to £15 per year this year. This is the first rent increase in 20 yrs apparently so no complaints from me. I used to spend close to £600 pa at a gym and spa - hated it. i now get treee times the exercise for a fraction of the cost and love it.
Quote from: SPUDLY on May 05, 2009, 12:46:49
Quote from: bedrockdave on May 05, 2009, 12:26:31
sorry if this upsets a few but I pay £ 3 a year for 3 plots and this includes water.and discounted compost fertalisers etc from the stores . Ours is a village site and we have had a grant off the community council to get 20+ tons of manure delivered .Get this though...this is the first year in the 5 that I've been on the site that all the plots are taken
:o :o :o I've just choked on my cuppa
You've just choked!!!!!!! i paid £83 with water............I think it's time i moved house :)
Quote from: saddad on May 05, 2009, 21:29:55
Wasn't intending to offend anyone...
The "old fart" was a continuation from a previous comment but it was on the previous page... so maybe you didn't pick up that I was using someone else's comment... hence the "quotation"
:-[
No offence taken, by me at any rate
For half a plot I pay £11, no water on tap rene and a trough
Quote from: bedrockdave on May 05, 2009, 12:26:31
sorry if this upsets a few but I pay £ 3 a year for 3 plots and this includes water.and discounted compost fertalisers etc from the stores . Ours is a village site and we have had a grant off the community council to get 20+ tons of manure delivered .Get this though...this is the first year in the 5 that I've been on the site that all the plots are taken
can I live with you?
Those reactions made me laugh so much saddad you cheeky swine!
oinkchooo! oinkchooo!
whats wrong with me, do I have a weird flu bug?
We pay £35 for a ten rod plot as we get pensioners discount. We have water, a secure site, regular deliveries of wood chippings, a trading shed, a trading table, machinery we can use (on payment of minimal cost to cover fuel and upkeep) and, as of yesterday, we have a composting toilet on site (the people who installed and erected this were all retired).
"Old farts" may be able to go to their plots more often than those who work but on our site its the "old farts" who run things, like being field secretary, keeping the site tidy ad maintained, keeping our field owned machinery in good order, cutting the grass verges and communal areas, managing our wildlife area, arrange schools visits and much more, including investigating sources of 'grants' and the work involved in applying for them.
Quote from: Busy Bee on May 05, 2009, 13:48:47
My stepson wants to get one in 1066s area as he has no garden at all. I think allotments are wonderful places :)
Yeah! The more the merrier :D
Quote from: 70fingers on May 05, 2009, 21:51:35
So does that make us newbies "fresh farts" then?? ;D
;D from a fresh fart........ :o
There certainly seems to be a lot of difference with costs and facilities.
There was talk about the EEC making some uniformity with allotments.
All the same size, facilities to be provided and so on.
We each pay £30 a year, no concessions. The council just supplies the land and we lease it from them as a Self managed self financing site. We could re-let every plot twice over there are so many on the waiting list.
It could be better, but changes do not always mean improvements do they?
Ours are 15 quid a year for something about 2/3rds of the "full size" though the size does vary a bit on our site and there are some half plots too I think.... there's a key deposit for the gate key.... I think the wrinklies get a discount..... we get free chicken wire (rabbits are a menace on our site) there's a communal heap of leaf-mould that's free, a cheap-to hire strimmer, seed scheme and there are water-trough systems every few plots... I'm in Oxford and we've still got a few spare plots (though I think I've just hooked someone up with one of them :D)
chrisc
Also in North hertfordshire (Royston, which is just in there) I pay £10 for 5 poles.
Popularity means a lot of plots are now being split into two and sometimes even four....
Some of teh old guys remember when a plot was 20 poles (I wish)
We do have gates and very little theft / vandalsim. Water included but no compost / chippings etc.
David, 1C on the green street allotments :-)
I pay £19.50 a year, thats up 50p on last year.
I pay £46 for a half plot. There is water on the site but no other facilities. The site is fenced but it is far from secure.
£1 for a full plot. ;D
We splashed out and got two ;D
I am a wrinkly old fart, so I pay less, and I don't care. Do agree get up to the allotment most days, so glad I don't have to work, and get a lovely free bus pass, private pension, government pension, no mortgage and no children to look after, apart from the lovely grandchildren. I am not moaning, I just love being a wrinkly old fart, although I must say with all my tennis look better than some of the youngsters (so there).
Quote from: BockingBill on May 06, 2009, 12:50:57
£1 for a full plot. ;D
We splashed out and got two ;D
dont feel as bad now,thought we were the only ones that were so lucky and only paying £1
No local authoriity sites available So I'm on a private site.. Pay £40 for about 3/4 of a plot size. Water at top of each row, so some are long way from water. It goes off and on a bit. But price includes manure, communal shed and tool use. Not allowed sheds hens or polytunnels. No toilets it is a bit of an issue for me, but have managed to pee in a pot. :o
Wish I could have a bigger site, but the allotments have only been going a few weeks and there is already a waiting list.
Smugly...I pay nothing. I've got a shed and hens and a stream runs next to our plots so we have a communal pump for water. This is land purchased by the local electricity authority for a sub station. They bought a whole field, only used a quarter so the excess was split into 4 plots after I approached them and asked. There is land out there that is available for the asking. ;D
We pay £30 per year for a full plot, with £10 deposit for gate key. There is water every few plots so fortunately no-ones too far from water.
Flossy - not 'sour grapes' just a bit jealous ;). She 'lives there' cos she can, and I don't blame her, I would if I could too!
Borlotti - Good on you! I can't wait to be an 'old fart' too ;D
I pay about £26 for half plot, we have water and toilet on site. I really enjoy it cos don't really think about the cost. As I mentioned before, there is a discount for over 65's but I am not sure how much the discount is.
£2 per plot regardless of size. £10 compulsory association fees, this includes water, manure use of rotivator, strimmers, mowers etc and free petrol. :o
We pay £15.50 for our plot which includes water for most of the year. I think there's only two or three taps on the whole site though but we're lucky to have one of them right next to us which is a God send.
There's a steady'ish supply of free manure from local farmers too but we're not allowed sheds, greenhouses or anything that can be classed as a 'perminant structure' which is a pain. There's also no association or communal hut or anything which would be nice. All things considered however, for £15.50 we're happy. :)
£20/year for pretty much a full measure of a site. Includes water and free conversation but nothing else. This national rail land and we run our own association but no toilets and the only communal thing is the sitehut.
we paid £23 including water for the year im in nottinghamshire
just been told our price is going up from £9.20 per 25 m2 (rod) per year
to £12.88 per 25 m2 (rod) per year :'( i recon thats a 40% hike
ho hum.
£48 for a full sized plot which includes £12.50 water rate, for water I never use as I'm nowhere near a tap >:( ::) we don't get anything free, we have to buy manure etc ourselves / shades x