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Title: barbed wire
Post by: cliffe.kent on April 12, 2009, 22:27:54
We have a few gaps in fencing does anyone know is barbed wire really such a problem and does it need planning permission?. the gaps are behind a hedge (hawthorn and brambles,)impossible to get too unless the person walks across a field and climbs a steep and unstables bank( which they do).We have sealed up the rest of the site but this final problem is a real issue. It will have signs if it goes up and will soon be covered by brambles so its just to protect the site from vandals this year.  The war on vandals continues...........
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: tonybloke on April 12, 2009, 22:32:05
To be honest, barbed wire does not keep anybody out. a coat or car carpet thrown over it soon makes it ineffective. what are they breaking in for? are there valuable goods on the site?
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 12, 2009, 22:36:12
You can climb over it comforably as long as you're careful. But as a temporary barrier while the brambles grow it might work. Had you thought of putting hawthorn whips in the gaps while you're about it?
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: cliffe.kent on April 12, 2009, 22:42:03
We are putting in whips from elsewhere but don't want them trampled down. Not theives but destroyers of sheds and greenhouses, not nicked just broken. Even put cans in a waste  bin. If you did'nt laugh you'd cry(well I would). Soul destroying. What goes on these days??????????
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: Ninnyscrops. on April 12, 2009, 23:02:43
Our allotment site had to install barbed wire a year or so ago and had to put H & S signs up stating the obvious even though it's 7 feet up.  The blighters still got in  >:(. There's got to be a market for those pretend CCTC cameras imho.
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: Bjerreby on April 13, 2009, 04:27:49
Barbed wire is horrid stuff for animals, and useless against intruders with a bit of time on their hands.

As a squaddy, we used to practice breaching an enemy's field defences.  If time is short, such obstacles consist of rolls of barbed wire simply strung out and not staked up. One or two of us would simply put on a padded jacket and lay on it, pressing it down, while the other lads dashed over us.

Barbed wire can delay entry, but not prevent it.
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: genlistlass on April 13, 2009, 14:04:34
We used to plant thick sturdy bushes with LONG thorns on both sides of our garden wall as it was on the trek from the bus stop to Spar........... worked well! Only snag - needed regular cleaning of sweetie wrappers and crisp bags! Anything mega-spikey will work.

Gen in NBL
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: chriscross1966 on April 13, 2009, 23:13:11
I'd put blackthorn in the gaps rather than hawthorn.... the thorns are evil to get through if you're normally dressed and you get the added bonus of sloes......
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: ipt8 on April 14, 2009, 13:22:38
You do not need planning permision for barbed wire, but if you are taking about an allotment or rented ground you may be best to check with the owner. Actually the most difficult thing to climb or cut is tall chain link fencing, or tall chestnut pailing fencing.
Title: Re: barbed wire
Post by: woodybrown on April 14, 2009, 15:50:13
Break ins are a problem everywhere,the police and council just don't care maybe we should all take the law in our own hands, we have friends and family in cliffe, and know that there are a few rather large men about down there, maybe you should get a few of them together to sort them out.....one of our friends has a allotment in Cliffe he would scare them!!!!But can't say his name on here... when we were young there was a man called Nobby with one arm who use to keep the kids out of the lotties..... were is he these days.