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Title: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: shirlton on March 28, 2009, 19:31:42
Does anyone have a problem with this. Last year we started with one goosegog bush and it got stripped. This year we have around 10 plants and I 'm not quite sure what to do to protect them.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: jennym on March 28, 2009, 23:33:30
We have gooseberry saw fly too, and it does work fast as you say.
I don't use chemical pesticides and have found that mesh doesn't seem to work well with this either.
The way I control it is to inspect the bushes daily when the weather really warms - this tends to be from mid May onwards. You have to look really closely, as the larvae which do the damage are green and hard to see. Usually I spot the signs of leaf munching before I see the larvae. Then it's a matter of squishing them. This is an ongoing job which seems to peter out around end June and sometimes start again in August after the fruit has been picked. If you have white cloth spread around the base of the bush you can gently shake it and the larvae fall on it and you can see them to destroy them.
It's said that disturbing the soil around the base in winter will expose eggs and that birds will eat them but to be honest I havent found this effective.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: ceres on March 28, 2009, 23:35:20
Mulch around the bushes with rhubarb leaves.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: thifasmom on March 29, 2009, 02:26:45
i was reading and thinking to suggest making an insecticide with rhubarb leaves then i got to Ceres post ;D

http://www.rhubarbinfo.com/rhubarb-uses.html#TOC71 (http://www.rhubarbinfo.com/rhubarb-uses.html#TOC71)
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: shirlton on March 29, 2009, 09:34:44
Mulch around the bushes with rhubarb leaves.


I'm going to try this as it's the easiest way. Will also try to see these little monsters. Might be something for the grandkids to do instead of bothering the ladybirds and worms.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 29, 2009, 10:09:50
I've had them in the past, and dealt with it by whacking the bushes to knock them off. After repeating it for a few days, they were all gone. Discharging a firearm next to the bush seems to work as well, if 'The Victorian Kitchen Gardener' is to be believed.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: saddad on March 29, 2009, 10:25:47
and if that doesn't the disturbance of a swat team turning up on the lottie should!!   ;D
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: valmarg on March 29, 2009, 22:24:42
And if all else fails, chuck a couple of handfuls of peanuts under the bushes.  The birds will find the nuts, and whilst they are at it, find the insects.

valmarg
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: Eristic on March 29, 2009, 22:27:22
QuoteDischarging a firearm next to the bush seems to work as well,

Thought that was only for the moles.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: terrier on March 31, 2009, 22:27:09
My rhubarb crowns are next to the Goosegog bushes, do you think that's enough to frighten the blighters off? Do chooks count as birds 'cos they spend most of their time round that area.. on second thoughts, they might eat the goosegogs  :o
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 31, 2009, 23:18:48
Chooks eat anything that moves, as long as it's small enough.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: Multiveg on April 19, 2009, 13:07:04
Gooooooooooseberry sawfly has arrived. Just noticed first one today.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: ceres on April 20, 2009, 21:45:02
I noticed some nibbled leaves today so had a close look and there are gazillions of caterpillars on 2 of my bushes.  I spent more than an hour picking them off.  Daily job from now on I think.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 21, 2009, 09:29:16
Get a stick and knock them off, it's quicker.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: shirlton on April 21, 2009, 09:37:08
I did this yesterday but will look at them closely today
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: shirlton on April 22, 2009, 07:48:11
Had a good look yesterday and no sign of any sawfly
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: saddad on April 22, 2009, 08:03:33
Early days yet...  :-X
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: Multiveg on April 30, 2009, 13:30:59
There were only a couple of sawfly things that day which have been squished. No sign of any others (YET), but I am still on the look out.
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: saddad on April 30, 2009, 13:35:11
Not seen any here yet this year...  :-X
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: ceres on April 30, 2009, 13:41:49
I've got rid of the first generation by picking off every day.  None for the last two days.  Two more generations to go  :(
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: shirlton on April 30, 2009, 14:31:54
Had another really good look today (even put me glasses on) nothing to report. Me thinks it must be cos they have the rhubarb leaves under them
Title: Re: gooseberry saw fly
Post by: trevody on May 04, 2009, 07:20:46
My well tested method for preventing saw fly on Worcester bushes (gooseberry, black current cross) Is to in early spring just as the bush is coming into leaf, mulch the the whole area under the bush with thick cardboard and a good layer of compost or mulch material, the cardboard survives long enough to create an impenetrable barrier for the hatching larvae, no problem  ;)