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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: woodypecks on March 17, 2009, 09:55:14

Title: KALE
Post by: woodypecks on March 17, 2009, 09:55:14
Is it true that cabbage white butterflies dont bother with kale ...or should I cover it  along with the cabbages ?   Never grown it before . Debs
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: blisters on March 17, 2009, 09:58:15
Mine got wiped out whilst I was on holiday last year.  I'll definately cover it this year.
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: woodypecks on March 17, 2009, 10:04:39
Thanks for the warning Blisters !  So another question ...am I right in thinking they grow quite tall ?  Are they taller than Brussel Sprouts ?  I f so I,ll need to make the frame taller ? Debs
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: thifasmom on March 17, 2009, 10:16:44
approx 18 inches high give or take a couuple inches.
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: woodypecks on March 17, 2009, 10:19:35
Thankyou Thifasmom , I think my present frame will do in that case .   :)
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: Old bird on March 17, 2009, 10:29:22
Hi Woodypecks - If you are growing dwarf curly kale it is quite short but the normal sized stuff is a fair bit taller.  The Kale negro and Russian Kale are about the 18inch size!

With both the curly and negro I have had only a small problem with pigeons and no problems at all with cabbage whites.  I have had to cover my PSB but these are uncovered and still doing well!   There are loads of pigeons on and around the site too!

Old Bird

;D
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: raisedbedted on March 17, 2009, 10:42:09
Mine have always been fine unless we have adverse weather such as snow and then the pigeons turn to them in abundance - maybe they make a good winter warmer for them or maybe its all they can see.
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: Barnowl on March 17, 2009, 11:49:19
With Cavolo Nero, if you keep cropping leaves from the bottom upwards they keep getting taller. We've had them grow to 3 ft but 2ft is more usual.
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: littlebabybird on March 17, 2009, 19:40:10
the pigeons decimated all my kale  :'(

lbb
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: SPUDLY on March 17, 2009, 19:53:04
Hi woodypecks,

I lost all my greens to the cabbage white caterpillar last year. My own fault, too slow getting the net out of the shed. Saying that i have never seen so many caterpillars as i did last summer. I spent ages during the day trying to pick them off, only to return in the morning and find everything covered in them. They destroyed cabbages, kale, sprouts, in fact if it was green it was gone. Wont make the same mistake this year. As soon as the greens are planted out they are getting covered with scaffold net.
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: Tin Shed on March 17, 2009, 19:56:45
I net every brassica on my plot - it keeps the pigeons and cabbage whites away, but those d*mn whitefly get everywhere!!!
Title: Re: KALE
Post by: thifasmom on March 17, 2009, 20:12:49
Quote from: SPUDLY on March 17, 2009, 19:53:04
Hi woodypecks,

I lost all my greens to the cabbage white caterpillar last year. My own fault, too slow getting the net out of the shed. Saying that i have never seen so many caterpillars as i did last summer. I spent ages during the day trying to pick them off, only to return in the morning and find everything covered in them. They destroyed cabbages, kale, sprouts, in fact if it was green it was gone. Wont make the same mistake this year. As soon as the greens are planted out they are getting covered with scaffold net.

last year was certainly a record high for the the cabbage white :o :-X >:(