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Title: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: hellohelenhere on February 25, 2009, 18:35:52
I was given a strimmer by a Freecycler, which may or may not work - but the plug is broken, missing a prong:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3308960177_c561e3a0bb_o.jpg)

Can I simply replace the plug as with any normal item, like a kettle or radio (which I'm capable of doing) or is it a different kind of plug, requiring special treatment? It looks as though the missing prong was only made of composite/plastic, which I don't quite understand.

I haven't tried plugging it in, and don't want to, till I've got some advice... :) 
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: grotbag on February 25, 2009, 18:40:48
if it was me i would cut the old plug of and fit a normal plug to it,
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: grannyjanny on February 25, 2009, 19:33:12
As it's for outside use you will need a waterproof  & I think shatterproof. You can get rubber ones. I am sure a man will be along soon to confirm or put you right.  ::)
Janet.
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Bjerreby on February 25, 2009, 19:42:57
Janet........here's the man.

A new plug  doesn't have to be waterproof. If water gets in it will short out and blow a fuse or circuit breaker. No sweat.

However,  don't rely on an earth connection for full protection against shock. You must have a residual current device in your meter board that measures current in and current out. If there is a difference (someone is about to be fried) it trips before the damage is done. Test it monthly.  :)
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: grannyjanny on February 25, 2009, 19:56:35
Thank-you my man.
Janet
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: hellohelenhere on February 25, 2009, 20:06:53
A residual current device? Eek! What is that and where do you get one? We do have a fuse board, which seems slightly trip-happy (which worries me a little, as to the state of the electrics in this house). Will the fuse-board be enough to protect us, or do we need to obtain on of these strange devices? :)
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Post by: northener on February 25, 2009, 20:14:28
Yes that will be fine so long as you have rcd protection somewhere. Get a new rubber type plug put on it and give it a whirl(hopefully)
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Larkshall on February 25, 2009, 20:22:15
If you look at the broken pin you will see that it is NOT an earth pin, there is no earth circuit (double insulated equipment). The only purpose the third pin serves is to prevent putting the plug in the wrong way round, which doesn't matter anyway with double insulated equipment. Continental two pin plugs can be inserted either way, even when they have an earth contact on the side.
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: les65 on February 25, 2009, 20:46:19
that broken pin also unlocks the other holes to allow them to enter the socket.
just cut it off and put a new plug on.
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Plot69 on February 25, 2009, 22:01:40
Quote from: hellohelenhere on February 25, 2009, 20:06:53Will the fuse-board be enough to protect us, or do we need to obtain on of these strange devices? :)

I personally would just cut the plug off, put a normal plug back on. You could wear rubber gloves, wellies and a plastic mac just to be safe.  ::)
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: PAULW on February 26, 2009, 05:16:00
Quote from: les65 on February 25, 2009, 20:46:19
that broken pin also unlocks the other holes to allow them to enter the socket.
just cut it off and put a new plug on.
Or you could use a knife or a knitting needle in the hole where the broken pin goes to unlock the socket and bobs your uncle away you go.
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Kea on February 26, 2009, 11:59:04
You can buy an RCD device that plugs into the socket then you plug the strimmer, lawnmower etc into that but test the rcd everytime you use it. You shouldn't really use any electrical equipment outside without one.
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Larkshall on February 26, 2009, 16:51:29
Quote from: hellohelenhere on February 25, 2009, 20:06:53
A residual current device? Eek! What is that and where do you get one? We do have a fuse board, which seems slightly trip-happy (which worries me a little, as to the state of the electrics in this house). Will the fuse-board be enough to protect us, or do we need to obtain on of these strange devices? :)

Most Supermarkets have (around £5) they should always be used with equipment which has an earth circuit. Be warned, equipment without an earth circuit does not isolate the mains, I know from experience, having cut through a live cable (both wires) and it was still live afterwards. So they are not 100% reliable. I am not very happy with double insulated equipment after that.
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 26, 2009, 17:10:09
I'd put a new plug on, but be careful about leaving it out in the rain.
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Post by: Two Choices on February 26, 2009, 17:37:06
What did we all do before rubber, all weather, all terrain,  super insulated,  all singing all dancing plugs came along?  We used a normal 3 pin plug with the correct fuse and applied some common sense ie we didn't leave it outside in all weathers.
So, as suggested previously, cut the plug off, fit the correct fuse, be sensible and for extra safety use an RCD.
Now, what do we do about those of us who cut the lawn in flip-flops!! ;D ;D
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Post by: Kea on February 26, 2009, 17:41:03
i suggest you learn to sew Two choices so you can sew your toes back on or wear something more substantial on your feet. ;D
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Post by: Two Choices on February 27, 2009, 17:45:57
Thanks Kea, I'd better not use the mulching mower then!!  ;) ;)
Seriously though, I don't personally do it but I've seen the neighbours cutting lawns in flip-flops and strimming without any eye protection.
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Natsb on February 27, 2009, 17:56:42
Hmmm.. from my dodgy past I remember using 2-prong plugs in a standard 3 prong plug.

A safe(r) way to get the two-prong in is to use an extention cord, put a second three prong plug in upside down (ie: with the earth plug in upside down and the other prongs overlapping edge of extention box . This should leave the two socket holes open for your two-prong plug.

Failing that, I DON'T recomend a teaspoon handle, knitting needle, matchstick...lollipop stick....metal skewer... screwdriver ;D
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: hellohelenhere on February 27, 2009, 20:45:03
Thanks for all the advice, everybody. I'll get one o' they device thangs tomorrow, stick a 3-pin plug on, and get strimming.  :)
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: Al37 on February 27, 2009, 21:00:37
Helen, I am sure I have a spare plug in rcd in the garage somewhere ::)
You should have no problem getting one in any diy store but if you can't let me know and I will post my spare one to you ;)
As for the suggestions of sticking things in plug holes
BEHAVE YOU LOT its not big or clever ;D
Title: Re: Strimmer plug broken, any suggestions?
Post by: naff on February 27, 2009, 21:58:05
Hi Helen, my advice would be to fit a new plug and buy a plug in RCD. An RCD senses current across live and neutral,switching both off so that in the case of a fault  no current can flow to the appliance in use.Even double insulated equipment, if used outdoors, should be used with an RCD.The 17th edtn wiring regs actually stipulate this now and most housing authorities insist that at least one down stairs ring main is fitted with an RCD to comply with this.Double insulation only ensures that no external part of the casing can become live in the event of a fault it will not prevent a shock caused by cutting a cable,that,s why we fit RCD,s.