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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: simmo116 on February 22, 2009, 16:29:41

Poll
Question: who chits?
Option 1: chit!
Option 2: no chit!
Title: to chit or not to chit
Post by: simmo116 on February 22, 2009, 16:29:41
i have not much room on window sills so may not chit. does it realy make that much difference. ?:)
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: tonybloke on February 22, 2009, 17:49:10
It don't have to be on a windowcill, anywhere with some light will do,  ;)
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Sinbad7 on February 22, 2009, 17:55:42
Life wouldn't be the same without chitting  ;D
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: cornykev on February 22, 2009, 18:09:26
I buy them in January and plant them mid March so their chitting, no.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: fishpond on February 23, 2009, 09:18:14
1st earlies --imo--essential, to gain a couple of weeks.
2nd and maincrop--no need. 8)
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Froglegs on February 23, 2009, 10:31:48
I don't,i like mine to save there energy for when they are put in the ground, not use some of it up growing on some windowsill.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: daileg on February 23, 2009, 12:15:13
much better crop if you chit first earlies i believe tried both ways
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: caroline7758 on February 23, 2009, 12:17:51
How do you stop them chitting? If you've got them now and they're not going out until March/April, won't they start chitting anyway?
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: daileg on February 23, 2009, 12:29:01
yes they will just break them off as they start to grow its not easy too much light makes them chit thick purply colour not enough light white spindley ones  to hot to cold all to much let them grow a little and plant em i say
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Vortex on February 24, 2009, 21:13:31
I aught to put this as a stock answer in a file so I don't have to keep typing it.
First and second earlies should be chitted - it makes no difference to maincrop.

Results from the GW trial done by Monty Don 4 years ago

1st Earliers 50% greater crop in 1 week less than non-chitted
2nd earlies 20% greater crop - no difference in time
maincrop no difference

The growth to harvesting time is the significance here
1st earlies 10-12 weeks
2nd earlier 12-14 weeks
maincrop 16- 20+ weeks

Chitting should be done in an enviroment
1) cool and frost free
2) with a reasonable degree of light but NOT direct sunlight
3) where there are no mice or rats

you want short dk green/purple shoots about 1-1/12" long
If you want bigger spuds rub off some of the shoots.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: littlebabybird on February 25, 2009, 02:24:53
Quote from: Vortex on February 24, 2009, 21:13:31

If you want bigger spuds rub off some of the shoots.

leaving how many ?   i want bakers
lbb
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on February 25, 2009, 07:24:42
Quote from: littlebabybird on February 25, 2009, 02:24:53
Quote from: Vortex on February 24, 2009, 21:13:31

If you want bigger spuds rub off some of the shoots.

leaving how many ?   i want bakers
lbb

From first earlies?
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: littlebabybird on February 25, 2009, 08:25:47
i have winston, bonnie and british queen oh   and aphrodite
winston is a first early  bonnie is called a 1st or 2nd depending where you look the other 32 are 2nd earlys
all are supposed to be good baked, so i figured anything that helps them be bigger would be good, have a few others as well but they were the ones i was worried about.


lbb
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: cornykev on February 25, 2009, 16:12:04
I leave two chits on some of my Kestrels 2nds.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: ManicComposter on February 25, 2009, 18:20:07
I have my potatoes in the greenhouse, it has been quite mild this week so I figured that would be ok. I propose to bring them in when the weather goes cold.

That sound ok?
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 25, 2009, 18:22:21
I'm not really bothered about chitting. I got some PFA today, they didn't have Duke of York or Cara, which are the others I want. Chitted or not, they'll go in in a couple of weeks as soon as the soil warms up a little.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: PurpleHeather on February 27, 2009, 04:29:31
Gardening has to be treated with the same reverence of any other religion.

If the high priest says you must chit. Then chit you must. The spirit of growth needs light to enter into the potato.

You know full well that potato farmers have built huge glass topped buildings to chit potatoes. LOL

Truth is, if you leave them in those little netting sacks they still chit and the new growth gets all tangled up. Some can start to rot if they get damp.

So, they are spread out by gardeners to stop that happening.

Light stops the shoots becoming straggly. Separation prevents them rotting.

No need to panic, the top of any piece of furniture in a light room, garage or shed which is not too warm will do to spread them out, you can use a cardboard box/newspaper, to protect the furniture and to stop 'sweating'.

Potatoes are very hardy and will chit more than once, even a wrinkly old spud will grow and produce something.  It can all seem very daunting to the newly converted.


Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 28, 2009, 11:03:16
Ah, but I don't believe in the Sacred Doctrine of Chitting, any more than I believe in the Virgin Birth. I'm a liberal gardener, just as I'm a liberal preacher.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Vortex on February 28, 2009, 20:30:24
The argument that farmers don't chit doesn't add anything. They don't chit because its not economical for them to do so - they'll also grow the varieties whose growth period most suites their local, which is why most new potatoes grown in this country are grown in Devon, Cornwall, The Scilly Isles, and the Channel islands.

As allotmenteers we have certain luxuries not afforded to farmers or commercial growers and have the capability by chitting of getting a jump on the season. The GW trial figures speak for themselves. Chitting of 1st earlies makes a considerable difference to the size and maturity date of the crop. Chitting of maincrop makes no difference; which is why farmers don't need to bother with maincrop potatoes - they just stick them in the ground for 18 weeks then harvest them.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: tonybloke on February 28, 2009, 21:04:42
Farmers DO chit their spuds (well, some of 'em do!) I have worked on a farm which chitted about 200 tonne of seed spuds per year. (cambridgeshire)
they put them in shallow, stackable trays, and use artificial lighting in insulated sheds (the same sheds are used for spud storage after harvest)
;)
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Vortex on March 01, 2009, 00:09:22
I rest my case then... ;D
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Moon Grower on March 01, 2009, 09:12:00
We wont be planting the tatties for around a month yet and always chit them first, it certainly makes a difference in our experience.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: vegmandan on March 01, 2009, 23:37:22
The most important thing to consider is If you're not going to Chit them then what on earth are you going to do with your seed potatoes ?   ???

If you just leave them in the dark then you'll just end up with white spindly sprouts which are of no use at all.

What people don't realise is that Chitting isn't necessarily a means of getting a faster crop but It is just a way of stopping your seed potatoes sprouting wasteful white shoots if you store them incorrectly before planting.

So whenever you get your seed potatoes put them in the correct cool bright place and chit them otherwise you'll end up with duff spindly sprouted spuds.

Chit 'em regardless !!   ;D
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: tonybloke on March 02, 2009, 07:55:51
well said, vegmandan!!  ;)
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 02, 2009, 08:38:08
I'm not going to keep mine in storage long! The soil's a bit cold yet, but they'll be going out this month.
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: milkybardave on March 17, 2009, 20:52:13
Ok, so I have my Charlotte "chitting" in their egg boxes, on a bright (not sunny) windowsill for the last 3 weeks, and not a sign of a "chit".

What's going on??

I may give up waiting and just plant them in the bags this weekend...
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: SPUDLY on March 18, 2009, 01:05:10
I cant function without a good chit, first thing in the morning and last thing at night. More at the weekend if i've had a curry the night before. Regular as clockwork me. ;D ;D ;D. Chit chit chit, i say!
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: tim on March 18, 2009, 10:33:09
Vortex - your magnum opus - put it in WIKI?
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: daileg on March 18, 2009, 10:46:32
i would chit in order to get a bigger crop as not chitting gives bigger potatoes i prefer smaller sweater creamer pots
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: saddad on March 18, 2009, 12:19:03
Don't worry about the Charlotte "Milkybar" Dave as some varieties are naturally more dormant... Salads Like PFA can be among the worst. Some are also sprayed to retard sprouting... if for eating...  :-X
Title: Re: to chit or not to chit
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 18, 2009, 12:32:26
My Duke of York have started sprouting in a week, PFA, which have sat here for three weeks, haven't done a thing. Who cares? They're going in next week once I've got all the earlies sorted.