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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: littlebabybird on February 19, 2009, 01:14:39

Title: cross pollination
Post by: littlebabybird on February 19, 2009, 01:14:39
do the following cross with different varieties of themselves

tomatoes
french type beans
cow peas
peas

thank you
lbb
oh and i have assumed that chili's, peppers, aubergines, runners do
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: tonybloke on February 19, 2009, 02:07:38
commercially, many different types of tomato are often grown in same greenhouse
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Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: littlebabybird on February 19, 2009, 02:15:18
yes but.. they dont save seeds  , i need to

lbb
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: tonybloke on February 19, 2009, 02:18:59
don't grow f1's then!
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: littlebabybird on February 19, 2009, 02:26:03
I'm not growing F1's

i understand that the commercial guys grow them all together, but as i said they dont save seeds, soo
do they cross with each other? can i grow different non F1 plants next to each other and still get pure seed?
lbb
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on February 19, 2009, 06:23:30
Real Seeds is probably the best place to go for this info.

http://www.realseeds.co.uk/

They have seed saving instructions for most things.
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: Barnowl on February 19, 2009, 09:02:50
Tomatoes are self pollinating but can cross pollinate. They are more likely to cross pollinate where the flowers have a protruding style and/or there is physical proximity and/or high levels of insect activity.

If you want to be over 90% sure of avoiding cross-pollination the varieties need to be at least 10 ft apart, probably more. Physical barriers (fine net) would be be more effective.

If you can time the sowing of the different varieties so that they flower at different times, this should avoid cross pollination.

A bit of reading .....

http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/tomato/2005025852004159.html (http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/tomato/2005025852004159.html)

http://www.southernexposure.com/isolation-distance-tomatoes.p.html (http://www.southernexposure.com/isolation-distance-tomatoes.p.html)

http://www.kokopelli-seed-foundation.com/tomatoes.html (http://www.kokopelli-seed-foundation.com/tomatoes.html)
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: saddad on February 19, 2009, 09:19:46
You are quite right LBB in your list of what do. Peas and French Beans don't so can be safely grown close together. Tomatoes don't, as a rule, but some of the older ones do. I grow heritage varieties and can have up to ten in an 8x6' greenhouse. I've only lost one variety "Red Peach" to cross pollination, it lost it's furry skin...  :-X

PS don't know about Cow Peas...  ::)
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: Jayb on February 19, 2009, 18:08:46
I believe cowpeas are predominantly self-polinating although minimal crossing (mostly by bumble bees) can occur. Artificial cross pollination normally produces less seeds per pod, again indicating self pollination as the norm.

I read a recommendation to harvest pods before they are fully ripe (as seeds often split when fully ripe), finish drying in a well ventilated spot.

Well that is what I'm banking on, but as this will be my first year (attempting) growing them, anything could happen!

Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: littlebabybird on February 19, 2009, 21:18:41
saddad as always thank you.

Jayb, thankyou, i have only grown one variety before and as you know i have a few this year!

lbb
Title: Re: cross pollination
Post by: Jayb on February 21, 2009, 23:25:55
Yes me too Thanks ;D