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Title: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Mr Physio on February 07, 2009, 12:16:09
Really love the preserved peppers that are found in the Kabab shops, does anyone know the variety and how to preserve them. Also the sweet soft chees stuffed pepers in ASDA are gorgeous does anyone know what variety these are also. Thanks in advance folks I know you'll have the answers ;)
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: saddad on February 07, 2009, 12:26:04
I don't know the varieties but I'm drooling already...  ;D
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: tonybloke on February 07, 2009, 12:28:21
I've just put on a couple of pounds thinking about them!!
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: littlebabybird on February 07, 2009, 13:08:02
yummmm, now where is asda
lbb
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 13:36:17
The ones from the kebab shop are almost certainly jalapeño peppers preserved in brine, seeds are readily available & there are numerous ways to preseve them yourself.
There is no Asda around here so I am guessing but I suspect they are Peppadew™ Sweet Piquanté Peppers, if they are then you won't find seeds for sale but they do come up in seedswaps from time to time.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: tonybloke on February 07, 2009, 14:16:50
thanks for the info baccyman, you do post some well informed replies!!  ;)
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Mr Physio on February 07, 2009, 14:25:26
Quote from: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 13:36:17
The ones from the kebab shop are almost certainly jalapeño peppers preserved in brine, seeds are readily available & there are numerous ways to preseve them yourself.
There is no Asda around here so I am guessing but I suspect they are Peppadew™ Sweet Piquanté Peppers, if they are then you won't find seeds for sale but they do come up in seedswaps from time to time.

Thanks for the reply, though I grew Jalapeno's last year and they looked nothing like the size of the kebab shops, peppadew sounds familiar. Out of interest why are they not avaliable?
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: PurpleHeather on February 07, 2009, 14:38:42
Peppers are easy to grow from the seeds inside any peppers you buy in the shops.

Not sadly pickled ones because the brine kills the seed.

So, next time you buy a pepper, just take out the seeds and put them on to kitchen paper and leave in a dish to dry out. Keep in an envelope until  you are ready to plant.

Orange peppers seem to be the sweetest.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Mr Physio on February 07, 2009, 14:59:31
Quote from: PurpleHeather on February 07, 2009, 14:38:42
Peppers are easy to grow from the seeds inside any peppers you buy in the shops.

Not sadly pickled ones because the brine kills the seed.

So, next time you buy a pepper, just take out the seeds and put them on to kitchen paper and leave in a dish to dry out. Keep in an envelope until  you are ready to plant.

Orange peppers seem to be the sweetest.

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Thank you purpleheather but can you tell me. Are seed killed if the pepper is preserved in oil
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 15:48:36
Peppadew International™ owns all growing rights to Peppadew™& has done since they were discovered in South Africa in 1994. Technically you can't even type the name of the fruit/pepper without acknowledging the trademark nor can you use the term in recipes - only the generic term Piquanté Pepper.

Seeds from peppers preseved in oil are often still viable, the germination rate is lower but many people have successfully grown them.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: littlebabybird on February 07, 2009, 16:03:50
Quote from: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 15:48:36
Peppadew International™ owns all growing rights to Peppadew™& has done since they were discovered in South Africa in 1994. Technically you can't even type the name of the fruit/pepper without acknowledging the trademark nor can you use the term in recipes - only the generic term Piquanté Pepper.



so if someone had seeds would they be ok to save seed for omeone else?
lbb
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 16:19:59
As long as you are not selling the seeds or plants it's extremely unlikely the company would/could take any action against you. A lot of people who swap them refer to them as piquante peppers or cherry peppers remarkably similar in taste to peppadew™ other people deliberately misspell the name pepperdew so it is clear what they mean but they are not actually saying they are offering to swap trademark protected seeds.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: AdrianH on February 07, 2009, 16:29:55
My local kebab shop uses pickled/brined Hungarian Hot Wax chillis not Jalapenos. The Hot Waxes have a better ripe flavour than Jalapenos to my mind and are a doddle to grow.... in fact I have 3 plants on the go at the moment!
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Mr Physio on February 07, 2009, 19:03:32
Quote from: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 16:19:59
As long as you are not selling the seeds or plants it's extremely unlikely the company would/could take any action against you. A lot of people who swap them refer to them as piquante peppers or cherry peppers remarkably similar in taste to peppadew™ other people deliberately misspell the name pepperdew so it is clear what they mean but they are not actually saying they are offering to swap trademark protected seeds.

So does anyone have any "pepperdew like" seeds they could part with for money or money's worth?
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: tricia on February 07, 2009, 21:31:17
Check your inbox.....................

Tricia
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: lewic on February 11, 2009, 18:48:03
Do they need to be grown in a greenhouse?
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Lauren S on February 11, 2009, 20:25:16
Ohh if anyone finds a source of these Pepperdue  ;) seed please let me know. Would love to try them  :D

Thanks
Lauren  :)
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: tricia on February 11, 2009, 21:17:57
Lauren - check your inbox.

Cheers

Tricia
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Smokin69 on February 27, 2009, 16:17:41
Id love to try these seeds as well if anyone had luck finding them. My fiancee is from South Africa an even she has yet to locate any of these for me. I have even tryed the seeds from the jared peppers with no luck :(
Thanks
Kevin
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Barnowl on February 27, 2009, 16:48:28
Long time since I've been in a kebab shop: are the peppers pointy or round ended? If pointed then not Jalapeno, but plenty of other candidates. What size they are and how hot might help narrow it down.

The thing is there are plenty of commercially grown pepper varieties that never appear on the amateur seed market, at least not with the commercial name.

To give you an idea, check out this site http://www.enzazaden.com/Products/ (http://www.enzazaden.com/Products/)  - I came across it while trying to track down a miniature sweet pepper called Calimero which got a good RHS review. Found it was grown in South Africa but the nice chap there said the seeds came from Enza Zaden in Holland (and no, you can't buy them except in serious bulk :( ).

These chaps have just developed a sweet pepper that stays green when ripe! I suspect that's one that might get released to the public if it's not too hard to grow.

Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: amphibian on February 27, 2009, 23:38:37
Quote from: Baccy Man on February 07, 2009, 13:36:17
The ones from the kebab shop are almost certainly jalapeño peppers preserved in brine, seeds are readily available & there are numerous ways to preseve them yourself.
There is no Asda around here so I am guessing but I suspect they are Peppadew™ Sweet Piquanté Peppers, if they are then you won't find seeds for sale but they do come up in seedswaps from time to time.

I reckon they're normall hotwax not jalapeño
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: DeeDee on February 28, 2009, 21:00:15


Hello guys :)

I am new to the forum and my search for ppd peppers is what led me here. I have recently had success growing long chillies from seed but would love to get hold of the small sweet variety. I have had them pickled and also on top of pizzas in restaurants. They are truly scrumptious and I am so excited that the new growing season has started. Just a quick q, how much luck do you think I will have growing this type of pepper inside? I live in London in a studio flat. Does anyone have a success story?

Thanks

Dee Dee 
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: manicscousers on February 28, 2009, 21:15:16
Hiya, DeeDee, welcome to the site  ;D
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Amazin on March 01, 2009, 01:22:07
Someone has kindly photographed their jar of pickled peppers to help with I.D. Check out this link:

http://www.route79.com/journal/archives/000118.html

Aren't blogs wonderful?

;D
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: dtw on March 01, 2009, 09:45:15
I don't get those round ones in my kebab shop.

The ones I get are 5-7inches long and about 1/2 an inch wide at the top, tapering to a point.
They are yellowy-green like in this picture.

(http://www.cookingwithrichard.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kebab-8.jpg)

I don't think they are jalapeno though, as the flesh is too thin.

Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: tomatoada on March 01, 2009, 09:59:45
Mr Physio can you describe the stuffed peppers at Asda.  They sound good.  Are they in the chill counter.  In a box/ packet?   Thanks.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: DeeDee on March 01, 2009, 10:01:21
The ones I saw looked more like cherry tomatoes. They were very sweet and packed a punch. Does anyone know where to get seeds for peppers like this?

D x
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: mpdjulie on March 01, 2009, 11:14:18
Its true about the pepperdew peppers.  I can't find them anywhere.  Does anyone know where one would acquire some seeds?
Thanks
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Barnowl on March 02, 2009, 11:54:07
Quote from: DeeDee on March 01, 2009, 10:01:21
The ones I saw looked more like cherry tomatoes. They were very sweet and packed a punch. Does anyone know where to get seeds for peppers like this?

D x

If they were hot and round perhaps
Ciliega Piccante "Satan's Kiss" (hot but get much milder when cooked)
http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/371 (http://www.seedsofitaly.com/product/371)
or
Iranian Round http://www.realseeds.co.uk/hotpeppers.html (http://www.realseeds.co.uk/hotpeppers.html)

I don't think either of the photos is of a Jalapeno.


Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: saddad on March 02, 2009, 12:11:09
Welcome to the site Dee Dee...  :)
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Mr Physio on March 02, 2009, 21:39:37
Quote from: tomatoada on March 01, 2009, 09:59:45
Mr Physio can you describe the stuffed peppers at Asda.  They sound good.  Are they in the chill counter.  In a box/ packet?   Thanks.

Hi Tomatoada,

In my local asda (Coryton, Cardiff) they are in the deli pre-packed section with the likes of fresh tomato salsa, fresh olives etc. They are in a round clear plastic container which has a plastic heat sealed top. The peppers are larger than cherry toms but smaller than regular sized toms, they are stuffed with soft cheese and stored in oil. Hope that helps, they are priced between £2.00 and £2.65, dependant upon wether they are on offer!
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help apprec
Post by: Biscombe on March 04, 2009, 20:53:28
The kebab shop chillies are normally long chunky and green, could be  Turkish variety called Aci Sivri.

http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=aci%20Sivri&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: DeeDee on March 14, 2009, 19:46:08
 ;D /tank yuo Barnowl, I will get hold of some and see how they taste. Fingers crossed for my chillies, my bonsai just died :(

x x x
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: PurpleHeather on March 16, 2009, 05:56:59
I noticed your question about whether you can grow from seeds from peppers which have been preserved in oil.

I had no idea but decided to research how to preserve peppers in oil.

There is a warning about botulism, if you do this at home with cold oil, the peppers are partly dried then placed in cold oil. Not something I would try and I rather think that commercially they would not be able to sell anything with that risk factor.

So, the ones sold must be preserved in a hot oil method. The heat would kill the seeds.

However, nature is peculiar in many ways and it would not cost much to take a few pepper seeds, rinse off the oil and dry on a paper towel, put them in half a pot of compost, cover with more (they have to have dark to germinate) and wait. It can take a month to six weeks to find out and if just one comes up. You have got a mother plant to go in to production with.

I do not expect it will work, but weirder things have happened.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: bawilson on July 19, 2009, 23:07:32
Hey, has anyone managed to find a source for sweet piquante peppers yet?  I'm trying to dry out some seeds just now, but very very doubtful that it will work with these.
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: daileg on July 20, 2009, 11:08:57
I use this site for my chilli seeds very reliable

http://www.readytogrow.co.uk/index_pages/chillies.html

enjoy  ;D
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: daileg on July 20, 2009, 11:10:21
these are the ones you refer to in asda stuffed with cheese
http://www.readytogrow.co.uk/index_pages/chillies4.html
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: daileg on July 20, 2009, 11:14:04
and sorry for your third question how to preserve and store them

http://www.chilly.in/chilli_faqs.htm
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Hector on July 20, 2009, 16:31:28
There's a feew different Jalapenos...some mild some more medium hot
http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seeds/pages/veg-chilipepper1a.htm#VEG120

Re stuffed chili peppers that are round...could be Satan's Kiss as someone else said :)
Title: Re: Would love to grow these peppers but don't know the variety, any help appreciate
Post by: Hector on July 20, 2009, 17:04:00
Quote from: daileg on July 20, 2009, 11:08:57
I use this site for my chilli seeds very reliable

http://www.readytogrow.co.uk/index_pages/chillies.html

enjoy  ;D

Nice site Daileg :)