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Title: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: littlebabybird on January 31, 2009, 21:56:50
as above does anyone know?
i can find lists on line but none of them even mention Norwich so i know they are incomplete

lbb
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: tonybloke on January 31, 2009, 22:08:24
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engnth/History/walled-cities.htm
this one lists Norwich (a fine city) ;)
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: tonybloke on January 31, 2009, 22:11:01
I took this photo today, Roman Wall
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Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: littlebabybird on January 31, 2009, 22:24:19
thankyou tony
lbb
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: saddad on January 31, 2009, 23:14:49
Yes in Roman Times and throughout the middle Ages London was walled. Hence the "Gate" names like Newgate. Have to be careful though as this far North "Gate" often means street... like Iron Gate and Saddlergate in Derby. I blame the Vikings...  ;D

Oh yes and Aldgate (old)... Moorgate....
8)
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: redimp on January 31, 2009, 23:50:33
Another good site tonybloke.  Clicking the Lincoln link fully explains my location under my avatar and as I am very fond of saying, we are about the only major settlement in England that has a corruption (rather than a replacement) of our Roman name which in itself, is a corruption of the Celtic name.

Lincoln and proud!!! :)

PS - is that Burgh again?

PPS - Saddad, 'gate' meaning 'street' is Viking.
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: Eristic on February 01, 2009, 00:43:56
I think they had to build a wall round Norwich to keep Kett and his mob out.
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: hellohelenhere on February 01, 2009, 02:25:45
There are still chunks of the London Wall to be seen, surreally in the ultra-modern City:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:London_Wall_fragment.jpg

and here's all about the wall:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Wall

The Museum of London is a fantastic museum if you ever get a chance. I went there once with my family for a few hours - starting at prehistoric London, we only got as far as Roman times on our trip, there's so much to see. The Roman stuff is really excellent.
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: hellohelenhere on February 01, 2009, 02:33:45
Here's a map that shows where the wall was:
http://www.sheshen-eceni.co.uk/images/london%20wall%20route%20map%2001.jpg
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: tonybloke on February 01, 2009, 08:40:00
the wall round Norwich was a long time before Kett and his buddies!
Yes Adrian, another image of Gariannonum!
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: manicscousers on February 01, 2009, 08:52:47
funny, I always thought Wigan must've been as we have a wallgate, standishgate, hallgate, and a few others, all around the town centre  ???
just found it, it was but abandoned in the 5th century  ;D
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: saddad on February 01, 2009, 10:30:57
Yes Manics... you are just seriously in the "Danelaw"... OK technically not but an area of Norse settlement...  :)
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: Carol on February 01, 2009, 21:41:30
still have the walls going round Berwick on tweed.   Makes a lovely walk if you are ever up this far.

Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: Barnowl on February 02, 2009, 14:53:36
Quote from: saddad on January 31, 2009, 23:14:49
Yes in Roman Times and throughout the middle Ages London was walled. Hence the "Gate" names like Newgate. Have to be careful though as this far North "Gate" often means street... like Iron Gate and Saddlergate in Derby. I blame the Vikings...  ;D

Oh yes and Aldgate (old)... Moorgate....
8)

I think the street called London Wall might also  be a clue .... :)
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: Pesky Wabbit on February 02, 2009, 15:27:26
Quote from: Eristic on February 01, 2009, 00:43:56
I think they had to build a wall round Norwich to keep Kett and his mob out.


I think they had to build a wall round Lincoln to keep Redclanger and his mob in.  ;D
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: powerspade on February 04, 2009, 07:39:57
Yes London is a walled city - its now known as the M25  ;D
Title: Re: walled cities was london ever one
Post by: Jeannine on February 04, 2009, 14:59:18
Beverley was walled, the buses that ran through the gates have special rounded tops, still do. Sorry I don't know about London. XX Jeannine