OH has been reading AT Kitchen Gardener & he says that autumn fruiting raspberries grow to approx 3'. The ones on our plot are 6'+. The person who showed us the plot said they were autumn fruiters as they were still in leaf & had red fruit on in December. We are totally confused!
Janet.
Don't believe everything you read in the press! They may exist, but I've never seen rasps that only grow to 3ft (dwarf rasps?!). All my summer and autumn fruiting canes are over 6ft too.
My autumn raspberries grow to about 6 foot too. They started fruting in August this year and went on til well into October, maybe even November. If your canes are still tall, cut them down during the next few weeks and they'll shoot up again in spring. Autumn raspberries fruit on the current year's wood rather than the previous year's as early ones do.
Autumn Bliss grow to about 3 ft, Joan J to about 4... I've never grown any other "Autumn" ones.
I'm waiting for mine to arrive in February ... ordered from the Gardeners World offer - 3 canse for post ans packing!
I know ... it will take a few years for them to multiply to good amounts! I can be patient .....
I've just been to my lottie to take some close-up photo's, I'll post 'em later today, but I've got an appointment with a lovely sunset in half an hour at one of my favourite spots, and I need the headspace after bl**dt assignments all weekend! ;)
the stems look different at this time of year.
Quote from: pippy on January 18, 2009, 15:48:02
I know ... it will take a few years for them to multiply to good amounts! I can be patient .....
What variety have you ordered?
I ordered 5 Joan J canes in 2007. OH planted them along the side of the greenhouse, and they have suckered all over the place. In fact, the best crop we had last year was inside the greenhouse amongst the tomatoes. ;D ;D By the time the 'outdoor' were ready it was so wet, they just rotted on the canes.
I can recommend Joan J, despite the above. They are really good flavoured, and prolific fruiters.
When you've got some fruit, I can recommend the following:-
RASPBERRY CLAFOUTIS
(with ground almonds)
4 eggs
150g golden caster sugar
1 tbsp plain flour, sifted
2 tbspn ground almonds
142 ml double cream
200g fresh raspberries
1. Preheat the oven to 180C. Using an electric whisk, beat the eggs an sugar together for 5 minutes, or until the mixture is pale and thick enough to leave a trail. Lightly whisk in the flour and almonds.
2. In a separate bowl whip the cream until it forms soft peaks. Using a large metal spoon, carefully fold it into the egg mixture.
3. Pour the batter into 4 x 250ml shallow ovenproof dishes and gently scatter over the raspberries – they will mostly sink beneath the surface, but this is fine.
4. Bake for 15-18 minutes, or until set and golden – make sure the centres are firm. Serve warm with scoops of vanilla ice cream.
valmarg
Hi Valmarg!
I ordered 3 canes of Autumn Bliss. They were on an offer for £3.49 P&p in Gardeners world December issue (I think?). We already have a double row of summer fruiting raspberries at the allotment but I've no idea what variety they are. They've been there for years before us and I think were taken from off-shoots from the plot next door. I tend to use them to make jam and freeze a few better quality ones for using in all sorts of things, but you can't beat fresh!
The clafoutis sounds lovely! I will have to try it - I love raspberries!
Hello pippy,
The only raspberries we have at the moment are Joan J. The canes that grew in the greenhouse were wonderful plants. OH and I had a slight altercation (row) about them, and he dug them up and put them in the recycling bin, ??? ??? With the benefit of hindsight, they would have made wonderful swaps.
Anyway, I shall have to see where they are sprouting, and could let you have some later this year.
valmarg
There's a variety of autumn-fruiter grown on my site - I've no idea what it is - which only seems to reach about three feet. I've got some heeled in; I'm going to give them a good mulch of grass cuttings later on, but I'm not sure it'll make much difference to the height.
My 6 footers are Joan J. Every winter I cut them down to a foot or so high and they look as if they will never grow again but every year they come back stronger. I ususally find I have to thin them out once they have grown back but before they start to fruit.
My Autumn Bliss and Joan J always grow to about 5 to 6 ft tall, and they are only given a light feed of growmore each year.
Hope these help
Autumn bliss cut down to ground level, this is important, if short stumps left, 'wicking' can occur and dessicate the roots, fungus can invade, pests can hide, and the plant can grow from the old wood, cropping too early and being affected by the dreaded fly and resultant maggotts[attachment=1]
summer raspberries (unknown var) thinned out and mulched[attachment=2]
close - up of buds on summer variety[attachment=3]
shot of autumn bliss showing branching stems which have fruited last year, NOTE, there are NO unbranched stems in the bed[attachment=4]
;)
Thank-you everyone. We shall assume they are autumn & grow accordingly. Tony thanks for taking time to do the pics with all you have on.
Janet.
Quote from: grannyjanny on January 18, 2009, 19:56:14
Thank-you everyone. Tony thanks for taking time to do the pics with all you have on.
Janet.
thermal overalls!! ;D ;D ;D
Valmarg,
That would be lovely if you do have time, and very kind. Is there anything I could offer you in return?