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Title: Seeds
Post by: ACE430 on December 30, 2008, 20:01:51
Hi

I am looking for the best place to buy seeds and other stuff like chitted potato's, for growing this season.

I am still new to this and dont want to pay for poor overpriced goods, any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Ace
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: tonybloke on December 30, 2008, 20:28:23
http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/ (http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/) for seeds (not spuds, too dear!)
and your local B & Q for spuds (now in stores)
Welcome to the site!! ;)
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: manicscousers on December 30, 2008, 20:31:10
watch out in
wilkinsons..seeds, onion sets and spuds, general  good stuff
poundland..seeds
netto, lidl and aldi..seeds, fruit trees and bushes
quality save, instores..seeds, onion sets and general gardening stuff, e.g..netting, weed control etc
did I forget anywhere ?  ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Kingfisher on December 30, 2008, 20:46:38
I like Thomson & Morgan, you can buy online and they will send you the plants when they are due to be planted out, as you are new this will be of some help to you

I started my lottie last year and I found them realy good, I put a big order middle this year and have started getting things like Garlic onions a thingsfor planting for 2009 you also get some good free offers I got some onions and pots from this order. well hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: kt. on December 30, 2008, 20:52:48
Click on the WIKI section at the top of this page and follow the links from SEEDS through to SEED Suppliers.  There is a list of suppliers with points posted by A4A forum members.

I use T&M for the odd seeds but they are expensive compared to some others.  I get 85-90% of my seeds from www.kingsseeds.com    These are one of the cheapest seeds supplier around.  my 2nd choice of supplier is  http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: RSJK on December 30, 2008, 20:55:30
Try and find a local allotment society if you can and support them
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Tin Shed on December 30, 2008, 20:56:31
Local potato days are good places to get seed potatoes from.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: caroline7758 on December 31, 2008, 10:02:33
If you want small amounts of lots of different seeds I'd recommend moreveg as they are cheap because the amounts are small.

http://www.moreveg.net/ (http://www.moreveg.net/)

Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: saddad on December 31, 2008, 11:25:33
Your own society may be involved in the discount scheme with Kings throught the NSALG, if not they would be if someone would organise it!!  ::)
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: timnsal on December 31, 2008, 13:16:20
I use Tuckers or real seeds. Both seem to be reasonable quality and not too expensive. Last time I compared (few years ago), Tuckers had a wider range of organic varieties than the organicgarden caltalogue did.

Sally
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Melbourne12 on December 31, 2008, 13:25:01
Ahem!

You might like to have a look at our Seed Sale here http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php/topic,47834.0.html

And it's all in a good cause!
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: misterroy on December 31, 2008, 17:38:01
Many of the recommendations are for "organic" seeds. How can any non-soil association approved substances enter a seed? What is the mechanism?
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on December 31, 2008, 17:51:27
www.alanromans.com - v. cheap and reliable.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: lillian on December 31, 2008, 18:05:25
Quote from: RobinOfTheHood on December 31, 2008, 17:51:27
www.alanromans.com - v. cheap and reliable.

I second that. Got lots for £13 quid ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Lauren S on December 31, 2008, 18:11:28
Oh don't forget Thompson & Morgans do a half priced seed sale in early May.
Still plenty of time to take advantage for sowing flowers and veg for the season
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Eristic on December 31, 2008, 23:08:20
QuoteHow can any non-soil association approved substances enter a seed?

There has been a lot of debate about this subject and I think the buyer should go with their heart. What I will say is generally the grower that grows organically probably exerts more quality control and you are more likely to get fresh seed that is true to the label. This applies more to the lower volume lines but all seed companies buy in most of their stock and have little or no control over what is in the packet.

Anyone starting out finds that the matket is a bewildering minefield of choices but my advice is to either buy very cheap at the bogoff shops or be selective and purchase from the smaller firms with a track record of service. Whenever possible, save your own seed and swap surplus with other like minded souls.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on January 01, 2009, 10:04:57
Has nobody mentioned www.realseeds.co.uk yet?

Not the cheapest, but maybe the best.  :)

I see they have........ not at me sharpest today!
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: organicandy on January 01, 2009, 16:37:17
Just looked at alansromans seeds and well impressed, ill be getting a lot of mine from him, thanks for the info
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: les65 on January 03, 2009, 18:48:38
i get most of mine from http://www.kingsseeds.com/Ko-Transact/catalogue.asp  and some from http://www.realseeds.co.uk/index.html
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 03, 2009, 21:30:01
Hello all!
I'm new to all this and being the completely methodical person that I am I got a book to tell me what to do...that is to say what plants to go for. I went off the recommendations of How to Plant Your Allotment by Caroline Foley and used the varieties recommended for the "Big Family Plot."
I should mention this is all possibly wishful thinking as I don't yet have a plot...ahem...but I am 7th and 8th on a few waiting lists!!
So anyway I made rows of the ideal seeds, I made columns for each of the main seed companies and if the company supplied the seed I wanted I ticked the appropriate row and column. Where the recommended variety wasn't available I went with my best guesstimate on what would be best. This narrowed my selection down to two providers:
http://www.dobies.co.uk/ (http://www.dobies.co.uk/)
&
http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/ (http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/)

I know, I know...I can hear you Hectare members laughing away, but to my simple mind rows and columns made sense. Anyway I got varieties that I feel I can trust and spent minimal amounts on postage.
I did however, spend the outlandish sum of £23.31! I'm sure they saw me coming  ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Tulipa on January 03, 2009, 21:42:43
Hello Brown 97 and welcome to Allotments 4 All, it is a wonderful place and I hope you have many happy hours here.  I really just wanted to say us Hectares don't laugh at people, we are all still learning on here.  There are so many ways of growing any veg/flower etc and we all try out different ways to find what is best for us.  You sound to be getting yourself ready and organised and hopefully will be on a plot soon.  You have done exceedingly well to have only spent £23.31 - well done!  It becomes more and more addictive you know.... :-[

Hope you get your plot soon.

T.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: manicscousers on January 04, 2009, 08:39:48
hiya, Brown, welcome to the site, watch out, you'll be a seedaholic in no time  ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: sarah on January 04, 2009, 09:10:07
i have used alan roman seeds before and am going to use them again this year as my budget is tight. they dont have a huge selelction of varieties but i quite like that as all the fancy brochures with thousands of varieties send me into a spin of indicision.  alan roman send their seeds in plain foil wraps which cuts down on the price and most are around fifty pence. 
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: saddad on January 04, 2009, 09:33:07
Welcome to the site Brown, any less formal handle?  :-\
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 04, 2009, 13:11:34
Yes, Thanks Tulipa, Manic and Saddad for your very warm welcome and words of advice. I totally agree that this seed thing can be a bit addictive...I think it was DebP who said she gets her seeds out and drools!!! I laughed because I've already started doing that..LOL. What is the best rehab? I might need to get myself enrolled before things get out of hand!  :)

To more posts and learning!!

Nathan
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: saddad on January 04, 2009, 13:14:27
There is no cure Nathan... and drooling is only a minor affliction...  ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: pigeonseed on January 04, 2009, 14:13:41
don't drool on the seeds - they might sprout early!
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: star on January 04, 2009, 14:53:14
Hi and welcome Nathan, ;D ;D ;D

Hope your plot comes up very soon, you have done very well to only spend £28. I can only go by wot the others say.........their addictions are really bad ::). I spend very little on seeds.....poor as a church mouse me.......awwwww ::)

I dont have a plot either so not a lot of room for too many veggies in my garden. I grow what we like to eat, though I would love to try things new as well. I dont have space for a lot of experimenting. I grew Salsify this year..........yummieeeee. We'll have some more of that thank you very much ;D

You made me giggle when you said hectares would laugh at you. ;). Many, many newbies have far more knowledge than I do, but thats why I like it here. No one is any better than anyone else and we are all still learning..............have fun  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Lauren S on January 04, 2009, 15:12:55
Hi Nathan and welcome from me also.

To date, as far as I'm aware, there is NO cure for becoming a seed-a-holic except... throw in the trowel  ;D

Good luck with getting a lottie very soon.

Lauren

P.S... Don't just wait for the call, get down there or speak (in person) to who ever is in charge of allocating lotties, and ask them again if any plot have become vacant. The more you ask them, I'm convinced, the quicker you'll get a plot.....Shows you are keen  ;)
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: lorna on January 04, 2009, 15:17:05
Welcome aboard, join in and enjoy. You won't find a better gardening site.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 04, 2009, 16:19:11
Haha! You guys make me laugh. Going to really enjoy learning and sharing!! Thanks again for the pointers about the plot Lauren. Will do!!

Star, I had never heard of Salsify. Do many people grow it? Looks like a cross between horseradish and parsnip. What's it taste like? (and please don't say Chicken :) :))

Along the lines of seeds - - Where would I find my local Potato Day location? Is this at the allotments? I'm in the NorthEast.

Although I did spend £23, I didn't buy any spuds yet. I'm hoping of going for 1st and 2nd earlies, depending on stocks.
'Accent' or 'Swift' as my 1st
'Maxine' or 'Nicola' as my 2nd

What do you think?
Nathan
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: saddad on January 04, 2009, 16:37:33
Salsify is also known as vegetable oyster... just vivd imagination. Not as sweet as parsnips. Even if you don't eat them they have [pretty flowers and will self seed over the entire site...
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e190/Plot52/salsify.jpg)
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: star on January 04, 2009, 19:42:35
The Salsify are lovely, as Saddad said, not as sweet as parsnips but they have a lovely creamy texture. My OH is very fussy and he loves them ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: cornykev on January 05, 2009, 21:13:17
Hi Natham and welcome to the madhouse  :P  there are some pretty crazy peeps on here  :P  but stick with me and you should be OK. The seedaholics on here are like a cult they dance naked on certain nights of the year and go through this ritual called seed swap, theres no hope for some of them, that's when we send round the straight jackets, anyone up for a seed swap this year.            :P :P :P      ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: cornykev on January 05, 2009, 21:20:31
Sorry Ace430 back to your question you can't go far wrong with alan romans, but check your local nurserys for spuds.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 05, 2009, 21:30:05
I don't know about dancing round naked. I think my wife may have something to say about that... ;D ;D
However, along those lines, what does everyone make of GW mag's mention of Lunar Gardening or Moon Gardening? Does it work?

Now I suppose I'll have more seeds than necessary of any one variety, and it is good practice to have many different pots on the go...so how does this Seed Swap work anyways??

Here's my list purchased this year as mentioned earlier:
Borecole (Curly Kale) Dwarf Green Curled
Broccoli Purple Sprouting   
Cabbage Ormskirk 1 - Ormskirk Late
Cabbage January King 3    
Carrot Parmex    
Leaf Beet Bright Lights   
Swede Invitation
Tomato Hundreds & Thousands
Broccoli Bordeaux F1
Brussels Sprouts Trafalgar F1
Carrot Flyaway F1
Cauliflower Walcheren Winter 3-Armado April
Cauliflower Mayflower F1
Turnip Tokyo Cross F1

From what I understand, they are mostly the "tried and tested" varieties. Nothing fancy, just works. Is that true??

Nathan
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Deb P on January 06, 2009, 05:11:16
Quote from: Brown97 on January 05, 2009, 21:30:05
I don't know about dancing round naked. I think my wife may have something to say about that... ;D ;D
However, along those lines, what does everyone make of GW mag's mention of Lunar Gardening or Moon Gardening? Does it work?

Now I suppose I'll have more seeds than necessary of any one variety, and it is good practice to have many different pots on the go...so how does this Seed Swap work anyways??

Here's my list purchased this year as mentioned earlier:
Borecole (Curly Kale) Dwarf Green Curled
Broccoli Purple Sprouting   
Cabbage Ormskirk 1 - Ormskirk Late
Cabbage January King 3    
Carrot Parmex    
Leaf Beet Bright Lights   
Swede Invitation
Tomato Hundreds & Thousands
Broccoli Bordeaux F1
Brussels Sprouts Trafalgar F1
Carrot Flyaway F1
Cauliflower Walcheren Winter 3-Armado April
Cauliflower Mayflower F1
Turnip Tokyo Cross F1

From what I understand, they are mostly the "tried and tested" varieties. Nothing fancy, just works. Is that true??

Nathan


1. Naked dancing? Whatever rocks your boat! ;) But i do put my hands up up being one of the seedaholics, I have been up tonight salivating over my latest bit of veggy porn, a.k.a the Canadian Baker Creek catalogue!

2. Lunar gardening...some swear by it, I have tried it in the past, and to be really honest haven't noticed any vast differences, but only tried quick crops like lettuces for comparison. OH bought me a book for Christmas on Biodynamic planting, and now I have a new half plot and a bit more room I can afford to try it out a bit this season.

3. I've grown some of the veg you have listed, Chard 'Bright Lights' is a favourite of mine, really decorative and I like it better than Spinach to cook with, doesn't bolt as readily.

Parmex and Flyaway carrots, Parmex are great little round carrots, I grew them in open ground last year and they did not get any carrot root fly, Flyaway did!

Be careful where you grow Tomato H & T, it is very prolific, and I found the fruits cracked quite easily, I just couldn't keep up with it as far as picking went!

Broccoli Bordeaux and PSB, both good 'doers', make sure you net them though or the birds will strip the lot. I grew 'Marathon' broccoli for the first time last year, and had a fantastic crop

Cauliflower Mayflower I didn't have any luck with, my fave is 'Shasta', one of the few F1 varieties I grow (mostly brassicas). Jeannine put me on to that variety and kindly swapped me some seeds, but I'm running out now, hence the Baker Creek catalogue; it's one of the few places I can find that sells it, amongst other goodies... ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Barnowl on January 06, 2009, 10:34:08
Because we're tight for space, I grow some of my potatoes in bags.

For a different sort of second early I'm a big fan of Anya (a Maris Piper - Pink Fir cross). You can buy them in Sainsburys if you want to check them out  :)

Re your seed list I'd say you were short on beans (runner and French/climbing) and conventional tomatoes - is that deliberate?

As you mentioned you tend to get more seeds per packet  than you need (200 brussel sprouts anyone?) and I've started using MoreVeg http://www.moreveg.net/ (http://www.moreveg.net/) who sell   in smaller quantities. (I haven't yet sown any of their seed so can't vouch for germination rates but no-one has mentioned a problem).

If you do want larger quantities Moles seeds and Tozers are usually good value
http://www.molesseeds.co.uk/index.html (http://www.molesseeds.co.uk/index.html)
http://www.tozerseedsdirect.com/ (http://www.tozerseedsdirect.com/)

I have used more than 30 suppliers in the last 12 months alone ((fully paid up member of seed buyers anonymous). However, like many others here,  the company I've used most is RealSeeds.

Re swaps, start a post in the Swaps Forum saying what type and/or variety of seeds you're looking for and what you can provide in return.

Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: gwynleg on January 06, 2009, 19:00:55
Oh no, now I've read this string I have to buy salsify seeds too!!
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: electric landlady on January 06, 2009, 22:07:38
Have just been checking out RealSeeds and they look marvellous! Especially the seed-saving tips. Can't think why I haven't looked at them before. Big thanks to the people who suggested them, although on the other hand you may have created a monster. I mean, how to choose?? I want to grow ALL of them. Uh oh, I can feel a big seed order coming on.

:o :o :o

Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: grannyjanny on January 06, 2009, 22:18:29
Hi Brown97. Welcome to the site.  Where did you get tomato seeds 100s & thousands please. I thought they were only available as plants.
Janet.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 06, 2009, 22:54:50
Quote from: grannyjanny on January 06, 2009, 22:18:29
Hi Brown97. Welcome to the site.  Where did you get tomato seeds 100s & thousands please. I thought they were only available as plants.
Janet.

Sure thing Granny. I bought those seeds from Dobies http://www.dobies.co.uk/ (http://www.dobies.co.uk/). They are £2.85 per pack of 8 seeds.

I'll PM you the details.

Nathan
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: organicandy on January 08, 2009, 16:53:09
Nettos if you have one in your area/for the pricley sum of 19p a packet, they have just got them in store in pontefract so they should be doing the same in the other stores  ;
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 11, 2009, 10:11:12
Quote from: organicandy on January 08, 2009, 16:53:09
Nettos if you have one in your area/for the pricley sum of 19p a packet, they have just got them in store in pontefract so they should be doing the same in the other stores  ;


Are they doing the Hundred's & Thousands Tomato in Netto?!?

Nathan
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: grannyjanny on January 11, 2009, 12:29:33
Unfortunately there isn't a Nett near us. :'(
Janet.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: manicscousers on January 11, 2009, 17:21:36
don't worry, lidl and aldi will start soon, and wilkinsons, and the pound shop, poundland, in stores, all of them will be at it  ;D
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Lauren S on January 11, 2009, 17:41:15


[/quote]

Are they doing the Hundred's & Thousands Tomato in Netto?!?

Nathan
[/quote]

I wouldn't mind trying these, this year.
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Brown97 on January 11, 2009, 17:45:30
Quote from: Lauren S on January 11, 2009, 17:41:15
I wouldn't mind trying these, this year.
:-\ :-\
I'd be quite surprised if Netto sold the Hundreds & Thousands seeds, seeing as Dobies sold 8 to me for £2.85!! Seems hardly like the type of seed Netto would have!! Can anyone clarify if Netto are selling H&T? If so I'll be trying both the Netto variety and the Dobies variety to see which is better in taste, germination, volume, etc.

Nathan
Title: Re: Seeds
Post by: Duke Ellington on January 11, 2009, 17:53:07
If I were to grow them in a 12in hanging basket~~would that be one plant to each basket ?

Duke