It's looking rather bad around this area. Quite a few firms going to the wall. Folks on forced leave till after christmas. One place on 2 days a week ..
I don't think we have seen the worst of this yet by any means.
I can see the lotties reverting back to being used as they used to be. Growing crops like spuds, carrots, cabbage, onions, leeks ,swedes, beans and parsnips.
No flowers or risky veg .A few rabbits being kept and bred for the pot ,a few hens for the eggs. One advantage over other lean times is folks have now got freezers, so produce can be stored easier and longer than before ..That's providing they will still be able to afford the leccy bill to run em.
Doom and gloom or is it? :)
Yes it doesn't look good Jim. Couple of mates who are scaffolders just gone on 4 day week. I'm doing ok i'm a sparky but a bit concerned what its going to be like in the new year. Wifes just been made redundant after 30 years at manor bakeries. She was an engineering buyer and they've put the stores out to subcontractors. On a brighter note its nice to have my tea ready when i get in from work.
yep,i think it will be a tough year next year !!!
It's tough enough this year :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Is anyone else getting a touch of déjà vu for 1978/9?
valmarg
it is tough... dh is worrying about his job too.. there have already been redundancies....
but on another note... will this push the councils to allocate more land for allotments?? I desperately need more space to grow veg but cannot get a lottie in my area and I know I am not the only person..
Ref to what becs said about councils. We have in our borough an allotment stategy for the future of allotmenting. It says all the things we want to hear about the need for new sites and where the sites are needed and then on the last page ,they say that there will be no investment from our beloved leaders. Any investment must come from outside.Much as i love allotmenting i really dont see companies investing in something like what we do without wanting something back.My company has an horticultal manager that managed to raise £7000 to have two very substantial size raised beds for wheel chair bound folk but as with a lot of these exercises not many folk came.I helped keep the site going and took all the bad mouthing of what a waste of money etc, so i think any of us that have an allotment it will be a good idea to keep it in spec. Big brother exists even on our allotment!!!!
I truly feel for those people who are struggling in the UK with the recession (call it what you will).
My family went through this 4 years ago as our business was ruined by cheaper imports. I dreaded answering the phone, the bank were hopeless and I became really really ill. Don't mention the post, I had a phobia until recently. The bank pushed us into liquidation (knowing we had a rented out house with equity), I believe it was personality problem with our business manager and me. Having our name in the paper was so embarrassing.
We decided to move away, the pound/euro was quite good and my nana died (I was one of her primary carers) so we took the leap. We knew it could go either way. Luckily 'him upstairs' must have been helping because it is great. We now spend as little as possible and get a thrill from it, own hens for eggs, OH works as a carpenter earning less than a quarter that he earned before in the same job.
It may seem really bad at the moment but it will get better and enjoy being frugal.
Bon courage
Quote from: cocopops on December 11, 2008, 19:53:25
I truly feel for those people who are struggling in the UK with the recession (call it what you will).
My family went through this 4 years ago as our business was ruined by cheaper imports. I dreaded answering the phone, the bank were hopeless and I became really really ill. Don't mention the post, I had a phobia until recently. The bank pushed us into liquidation (knowing we had a rented out house with equity), I believe it was personality problem with our business manager and me. Having our name in the paper was so embarrassing.
We decided to move away, the pound/euro was quite good and my nana died (I was one of her primary carers) so we took the leap. We knew it could go either way. Luckily 'him upstairs' must have been helping because it is great. We now spend as little as possible and get a thrill from it, own hens for eggs, OH works as a carpenter earning less than a quarter that he earned before in the same job.
It may seem really bad at the moment but it will get better and enjoy being frugal.
Bon courage
I can remember the 1930's (I was a boy) seems like it's happening again. I shall have to go rabbit and pidgeon shooting again.
I started my own business over 35yrs ago, and I noticed the recession began with me 14 months ago. This past year my turnover has fallen by 35% and its getting worse, I am not worried as in 7 weeks time I retire and between the state pension and Pension credits I`ll be far better off than I am now.
I remember rabbit and pigeon shooting in the '70's... then they shut all the mills, bless 'em! :-X
daughter loses here job at woollies any time now. stores will be shutting as the rents become due. she is being positive about it , she shelf stacked for 9 hours a week and as she is a recent one parent family on benefit she only got £20 extra a week for working. she intends going to college so she can get a better job
marg
It is sad about all these people losing their jobs, especially this time of year. I was written off after 28 years in the same job. It was the kick up the backside I needed. Things are pretty good at the moment, although my clients will be feeling the pinch so I expect their gardens will be way down the list of their priorities.
Anyway, as I was born with nothing and I still have most of it left. So whats the use of worrying.
Recession/depression? It's a myth, like Santa.....
Gotta be, cos according to the Govt, those on benefits gotta train for jobs or lose their entitlements, so there's gotta be jobs out there for them to take up. QED 8)
Quote from: valmarg on December 11, 2008, 14:17:21
Is anyone else getting a touch of déjà vu for 1978/9?
valmarg
Can't really remember that one Valmarg but remember very well the late 1980's and early 1990's. I just started out self-employed selling double glazing and gave up after 18 months as the recession really hit hard.
Quote from: Paulines7 on December 12, 2008, 13:17:42
Can't really remember that one Valmarg but remember very well the late 1980's and early 1990's. I just started out self-employed selling double glazing and gave up after 18 months as the recession really hit hard.
I remember that too.....round here, even the pubs which traditionally used to employ students for occasional work who needed cash to live on when student grants got cut, had breadlines of peeps queuing up for the work.....it was a bad scene then & it's an even worse one now I think :(
According to the job centre website there are plenty of jobs, all on the minimum wage, not a living one.
I, with another 90 odd people lose my job next week, looks like being a hard 2009 for me as well as thousands more. What ever happened to THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER.
It went with the other one... "We've never had it so good!" :-X
Quote from: Paulines7 on December 12, 2008, 13:17:42
Quote from: valmarg on December 11, 2008, 14:17:21
Is anyone else getting a touch of déjà vu for 1978/9?
valmarg
Can't really remember that one Valmarg but remember very well the late 1980's and early 1990's. I just started out self-employed selling double glazing and gave up after 18 months as the recession really hit hard.
1978/79 was the 'Winter of discontent'. Public sector workers were striking. Roads were not being gritted, corpses were not being buried, etc. Jim Callaghan came back from a jolly abroad only to ask 'crisis, what crisis?'
I feel we are in the same deep manure as we were then. How much longer before eyebrows Darling (as opposed to eyebrows Healey) will have to go cap in hand to the IMF to bail us out of this s**t?
Oh, and of course, Gordon Brown has saved the world. ??? ::) ;D
valmarg
Quote from: saddad on December 13, 2008, 10:46:31
It went with the other one... "We've never had it so good!" :-X
Sorry saddad, but the quote is 'you've never had it so good' said by Harold Macmillan. And then we had Harold Wilson and his 'tired and emotional' sidekick George Brown. ::) ::)
valmarg