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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: Georgie on October 03, 2008, 20:58:47

Title: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 03, 2008, 20:58:47
I need help!  I'm certain I've sown Tagetes at this time of year before and over-wintered them in my mini greenhouse.  Yet try as I might I can't find anything in my books or via a swift Google which suggests anything other than sowing late winter/early spring.  Am I going mad?

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Hyacinth on October 03, 2008, 21:07:04
Quote from: Georgie on October 03, 2008, 20:58:47
Am I going mad?

G x

errr....shall I be the first? ;) ;D

Well why not give it a go, Georgie? I'm sure you've got lots of saved seeds but if not I'll send you some of mine. I've only ever sown them early spring and as germination's so fast they're always ready to go out at the time my veggies do, as I grow them as companion plants. I've never tried winter sowing so I'm curious..
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 04, 2008, 10:14:43
Awww, thanks for the offer Hyacinth but as you guessed I've got the seed, just no sowing instructions.  I grow it as a companion plant too, in my case in the greenhouse to keep the whitefly away.  The thing is I got whitefly very early this year hence the idea of an autumn sowing.  I'll probably give it a try as there's not much to lose.

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Hyacinth on October 04, 2008, 16:50:24
And report back, please?

Lish x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: theothermarg on October 04, 2008, 17:00:13
mmm interesting   think that when I sow them in the spring it,s a battle to keep the slugs away from them, not sure if I can do that or want to all through the winter as well. what is the advantage of doing this?
marg
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 04, 2008, 17:10:30
Quote from: Hyacinth on October 04, 2008, 16:50:24
And report back, please?

Lish x

Of course, if someone reminds me.   ;)

Quote from: theothermarg on October 04, 2008, 17:00:13
... what is the advantage of doing this?
marg


Well the idea is too keep the whitefly off the tender stuff in the mini greenhouse.  I know what you mean about the slugs and snails, though.   ::)

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 14, 2008, 17:04:22
Right, I bit the bullet and sowed 10 seeds on Sunday in a 9cm pot covered with the top half of a water bottle and put the pot on the kitchen windowsill.  Today I noticed that at least three of the seeds are starting to break through the surface.  So far, so good.   :)

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: caroline7758 on October 14, 2008, 18:17:35
This what the experts say-

http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profiles0902/hardy_annuals.asp (http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profiles0902/hardy_annuals.asp)

Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Barnowl on October 14, 2008, 18:40:36
Good Luck with you late/early sowing. Off topic, but something ate the tops off our marigolds after they were planted out. It wasn't slugs because open ended cloches stopped it happening. Which  suggests birds as the culprits.
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 15, 2008, 16:44:17
Quote from: Barnowl on October 14, 2008, 18:40:36
Good Luck with you late/early sowing. Off topic, but something ate the tops off our marigolds after they were planted out. It wasn't slugs because open ended cloches stopped it happening. Which  suggests birds as the culprits.

Thanks.  But I don't understand how 'open ended cloches' stop slugs. Can you explain?

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Barnowl on October 15, 2008, 17:56:02
They don't stop slugs  - they stop the birds.  If it had been slugs doing the damage the flowers would have continued to get eaten despite putting on the cloches.
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 15, 2008, 19:43:16
Quote from: Barnowl on October 15, 2008, 17:56:02
They don't stop slugs  - they stop the birds.  If it had been slugs doing the damage the flowers would have continued to get eaten despite putting on the cloches.

Ah right, I'm with you now.  Funny though, birds eating Marigolds, new one on me.

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Barnowl on October 16, 2008, 09:27:14
Seems to be a SW London thing  :)   Once they flower they're left alone.
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 16, 2008, 11:15:35
Quote from: Barnowl on October 16, 2008, 09:27:14
Seems to be a SW London thing  :)   Once they flower they're left alone.

How very strange.  Also off topic, up until now I've been put off growing crocuses because I've read that the flowers can be spoilt by the birds.  But this year I've decided to try a few under the Buddleia.  Yet another experiment.

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Palustris on October 16, 2008, 12:12:52
Only crocus we ever had trouble by bird were yellow ones, they left other colours alone. Here we have no cocuses at all, but that is because the mice eat the corms long before they ever flower (the crocus not the mice!).
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 16, 2008, 14:04:03
Quote from: Palustris on October 16, 2008, 12:12:52
Only crocus we ever had trouble by bird were yellow ones, they left other colours alone. Here we have no cocuses at all, but that is because the mice eat the corms long before they ever flower (the crocus not the mice!).

Oh right.  I've chosen a purple one called Ruby Giant.  That was lucky eh?   ;D

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 27, 2008, 20:03:18
Quote from: Georgie on October 14, 2008, 17:04:22
Right, I bit the bullet and sowed 10 seeds on Sunday in a 9cm pot covered with the top half of a water bottle and put the pot on the kitchen windowsill.  Today I noticed that at least three of the seeds are starting to break through the surface.  So far, so good.   :)

G x

Quick update.  Eight out of 10 of the seeds germinated.  Two weeks on they all had true leaves so they were pricked out into individual 9cm pots yesterday.  I put 5 pots in a gravel-lined tray in the 'sunny' mini greenhouse and the remaining 3 in the other mini greenhouse which is more shady.  They survived the night.   :)

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: thifasmom on October 28, 2008, 09:20:23
Following your lead George i sowed some harvested seed and about eight germinated out of 24 but i think some of the seed were a little mouldy to start with as a i collected those when they were a little damp, but i have a lot more viable ones to sow in the spring.

my own were sown about a week ago in the greenhouse and though the days were quite warm to hot in there i gave them extra protection by putting a propagator lid over the seed tray as the night temps were dipping quite low. they still came up fairly quickly but still only have their seed leaves at this time.

will check them later to see how everything faired in the very cold greenhouse last night as there was evidence of hard frost ie frozen bird bath.
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 28, 2008, 14:52:40
Hi.  I've checked mine again and they are fine: cold but no frost here.  Here's hoping yours made it too.   :)

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: thifasmom on October 30, 2008, 10:01:41
Didn't get to check them till yesterday afternoon. they appear to be fine with the beginning of their true leaves observed.

i know its early to say, but i think if this succeeds i may do this every year ie: try and sow the flowers for the vege garden in autumn (at least those that can be sown) as it will be one less thing to try and do early spring.
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on October 30, 2008, 20:34:51
Quote from: thifasmom on October 30, 2008, 10:01:41
Didn't get to check them till yesterday afternoon. they appear to be fine with the beginning of their true leaves observed.

i know its early to say, but i think if this succeeds i may do this every year ie: try and sow the flowers for the vege garden in autumn (at least those that can be sown) as it will be one less thing to try and do early spring.

Hey that's great.   :)  Do let us know if you try any other experiments - we're a nosy lot!   ;D

G x
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: thifasmom on October 31, 2008, 01:42:48
Quote from: Georgie on October 30, 2008, 20:34:51
Hey that's great.   :)  Do let us know if you try any other experiments - we're a nosy lot!   ;D
G x

so i gathered but it is all for a good cause ie the passing on of knowledge, so i don't mind :D.
Title: Re: Senior moment - sowing Tagetes
Post by: Georgie on November 07, 2008, 20:37:09
Quote from: Georgie on October 27, 2008, 20:03:18

Quick update.  Eight out of 10 of the seeds germinated.  Two weeks on they all had true leaves so they were pricked out into individual 9cm pots yesterday.  I put 5 pots in a gravel-lined tray in the 'sunny' mini greenhouse and the remaining 3 in the other mini greenhouse which is more shady.  They survived the night.   :)

G x

Grrr!  Checked the plants again today and 2 out of 3 in the shady greenhouse had been eaten by baby slugs - found 'em under the pots.  >:(

So I've put the survivor in with the 5 plants in the other greenhouse (having checked it carefully for slugs first). 

G x